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<blockquote data-quote="AJEL" data-source="post: 56359" data-attributes="member: 1480"><p><strong><em>Why drive yourself crazy about such a short term appliance material.</em> I drive myself crazy as the CLEARspling appliances are long term, I just relined one I made in 2004, & cleaned & repaired one from 2000. I use the duplicated model for blockout requirements, with the soft suck material that shouldn't be an issue. </strong></p><p><strong>Light cure materials tend to be rigid & crack, they also absorb all & any odor/stain. that would explain the term open matrix material, needing a sealant.</strong></p><p><strong>Talon is an interesting combination, I don't care for the smell and why does it still have that chemical smell even after a double process? When repairing Talon why does it seem to brown so fast? My uneducated thought is possibly there are uncured elements in Talon. When I used it I had several customers with reactions. I calibrate my equipment with regularity (GMP) so when I follow mfg directions I'm right on, they invented it I follow their directions.</strong></p><p><strong>I've used both hydrocoloid for duplication & silicone under magnification the hydrocoloid just seems sharper in detail. The silicone is neat as you can make several models on one mold though. I've read in some threads that to stretch the cost of the silicone folks try to chop up the old molds and put pieces in when making a new mold. Is it just me or does it seem a possibility that a hard piece could cause a deformity in a new mold? Myself I have found it easier to chop up hydrocoloid and keep track of how old & how many times I have broken it down & proper control of temperatures. GMP does take some practice and persistence, possibly I have a little self-discipline to watch details. I'm a boring technician I believe if U do the same thing the same way with the same materials the same result should occur, boring repetition.</strong></p><p><strong><u>We can't spot a slightly off impression, I rarely see them anyway I usually get models. Possibly U could get your DDS to scann & send U the data then you could mill a model to work on!</u> </strong></p><p>For comparison I'm just a small lab 2011 I only did 201 Dawson balanced brux & 76 Tanner appliances. I'm mostly a denture lab. I only started brux appliances in 1975 when I heard Henry Tanner DDS talk at a L.D. Pankey Institute sponsored lecture in Chicago.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AJEL, post: 56359, member: 1480"] [B][I]Why drive yourself crazy about such a short term appliance material.[/I] I drive myself crazy as the CLEARspling appliances are long term, I just relined one I made in 2004, & cleaned & repaired one from 2000. I use the duplicated model for blockout requirements, with the soft suck material that shouldn't be an issue. Light cure materials tend to be rigid & crack, they also absorb all & any odor/stain. that would explain the term open matrix material, needing a sealant. Talon is an interesting combination, I don't care for the smell and why does it still have that chemical smell even after a double process? When repairing Talon why does it seem to brown so fast? My uneducated thought is possibly there are uncured elements in Talon. When I used it I had several customers with reactions. I calibrate my equipment with regularity (GMP) so when I follow mfg directions I'm right on, they invented it I follow their directions. I've used both hydrocoloid for duplication & silicone under magnification the hydrocoloid just seems sharper in detail. The silicone is neat as you can make several models on one mold though. I've read in some threads that to stretch the cost of the silicone folks try to chop up the old molds and put pieces in when making a new mold. Is it just me or does it seem a possibility that a hard piece could cause a deformity in a new mold? Myself I have found it easier to chop up hydrocoloid and keep track of how old & how many times I have broken it down & proper control of temperatures. GMP does take some practice and persistence, possibly I have a little self-discipline to watch details. I'm a boring technician I believe if U do the same thing the same way with the same materials the same result should occur, boring repetition. [U]We can't spot a slightly off impression, I rarely see them anyway I usually get models. Possibly U could get your DDS to scann & send U the data then you could mill a model to work on![/U] [/B] For comparison I'm just a small lab 2011 I only did 201 Dawson balanced brux & 76 Tanner appliances. I'm mostly a denture lab. I only started brux appliances in 1975 when I heard Henry Tanner DDS talk at a L.D. Pankey Institute sponsored lecture in Chicago. [/QUOTE]
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