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3Shape Remote Design - Can i Do it?
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<blockquote data-quote="roju" data-source="post: 256228" data-attributes="member: 16108"><p>Setting up VPN requires "computer knowledge". For VPN connection you need to set up your router properly: What you need to do and how to do it, varies (router specific thingies, reading a manual is needed!). Then you must configure client (windows machine) so that client and the router exchange keys/certificates and handles authentication as well. After that you need to open ports (from "server" machine) for 3shape (dongle) and possibly for database and filesharing (if you want to use them).</p><p></p><p>It is possible to make 3shape work without VPN like Sevan said. And Its possible to make database AND Sharing (for order dir) to work as well! I am a bit of a security freak so i must point out that VPN encrypts traffic and it can be used to authenticate users (that connect to router) as well. Without VPN all traffic is sent "as is", without encryption. But since one user only knows what router is forwarding which port, the lack authentication/encryption might not be a "real" problem :-D</p><p></p><p>If you are connecting without VPN, from windows firewall you need to open and/or forward (from router) these ports:</p><p>- 27027 for 3shape (dongle)</p><p>- 1433, 1434 for SQL server express (database that is)</p><p>- 445, 139 for file sharing (ability to connect to a preknown share with IP address, for order dir/manufactdir)</p><p></p><p>if you want to use that file sharing ability, there is a thing what you need to know before you begin to change settings in 3shape control panel. First is Sharing permissions: you can alter Sharing permissions (of that c:\3shape folder) so that user "guest" has read/write access (not recommended due lack of security/authentication) OR need to know username and password for that machine you are trying to connect: then you can use windows creditential manager (in control panel) to add/store creditentials for that machine. Second thing is that opening/forwarding ports 445 and 139 DOES NOT enable the Windows feature that you can "browser network (computers)" in windows file explorer. You will need to know what is shared and in what ip-address and connect to it directly.</p><p></p><p>If you use remote database (of which we have been warned in this thread: it slows DentalManager a lot) then you might want to check that one certain option enabled on sql server express. For 3shape installation TCP/IP protocol should be (if i remember corretly) enabled by default. Without that (server) will not allow any remote connection to database. Open "sql server configuration manager" and check from "sql server network configuration" -> "protocols for THREESHAPEDENTAL" that TCP/IP protocol is enabled. </p><p></p><p>anyway, the easiest way to do "remote designing" is the way Sevan is doing it: just to make 3shape software check the dongle over network, then use export/import orders between "remote computer" and main design/scan station.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="roju, post: 256228, member: 16108"] Setting up VPN requires "computer knowledge". For VPN connection you need to set up your router properly: What you need to do and how to do it, varies (router specific thingies, reading a manual is needed!). Then you must configure client (windows machine) so that client and the router exchange keys/certificates and handles authentication as well. After that you need to open ports (from "server" machine) for 3shape (dongle) and possibly for database and filesharing (if you want to use them). It is possible to make 3shape work without VPN like Sevan said. And Its possible to make database AND Sharing (for order dir) to work as well! I am a bit of a security freak so i must point out that VPN encrypts traffic and it can be used to authenticate users (that connect to router) as well. Without VPN all traffic is sent "as is", without encryption. But since one user only knows what router is forwarding which port, the lack authentication/encryption might not be a "real" problem :-D If you are connecting without VPN, from windows firewall you need to open and/or forward (from router) these ports: - 27027 for 3shape (dongle) - 1433, 1434 for SQL server express (database that is) - 445, 139 for file sharing (ability to connect to a preknown share with IP address, for order dir/manufactdir) if you want to use that file sharing ability, there is a thing what you need to know before you begin to change settings in 3shape control panel. First is Sharing permissions: you can alter Sharing permissions (of that c:\3shape folder) so that user "guest" has read/write access (not recommended due lack of security/authentication) OR need to know username and password for that machine you are trying to connect: then you can use windows creditential manager (in control panel) to add/store creditentials for that machine. Second thing is that opening/forwarding ports 445 and 139 DOES NOT enable the Windows feature that you can "browser network (computers)" in windows file explorer. You will need to know what is shared and in what ip-address and connect to it directly. If you use remote database (of which we have been warned in this thread: it slows DentalManager a lot) then you might want to check that one certain option enabled on sql server express. For 3shape installation TCP/IP protocol should be (if i remember corretly) enabled by default. Without that (server) will not allow any remote connection to database. Open "sql server configuration manager" and check from "sql server network configuration" -> "protocols for THREESHAPEDENTAL" that TCP/IP protocol is enabled. anyway, the easiest way to do "remote designing" is the way Sevan is doing it: just to make 3shape software check the dongle over network, then use export/import orders between "remote computer" and main design/scan station. [/QUOTE]
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