Who needs 5-axis milling?

[DMC]

Not me. I stuffed a 27mm tall bridge into an 18mm thick piece of Zirconi glued at angle.

We've been doing this for quite some time now with crazy angle of insertion for bridges.

This Zirconia protrudes 7mm above the top of a "Normal" Lava frame.

Impossible in any other Lava mill on the planet!

Only in my world! Reducing my over-head, by using my head.

Cut my Material cost in half. We use SUM3d to have available material in CAM match what you see in pic.

The Material in NOT centered on 0 Z, but offset upwards. (Not visable in the pic...block is upside-down)

!

 

[JayH]

Impossible in any other Lava mill on the planet!

Pretty big talk. Wanna bet?

 

[DMC]

I wanna see some of your tricks for once dude.

I have seen nothing to impress me from your camp yet.

Just talk and attitude so far for years. Prove me wrong brother.....

 

[JayH]

So, that's a "no" then?

I have no tricks Scott, just some simple understanding of machining.

 

[DMC]

YOu did this huh?

B.S.

So, you angled the raw curve in your cam and added the fixture and spindle and tools to prevent collision in CAM simulation and gain the needed reach to go into that deep of a block before?

How did you work around the tool reach of only 23mm with the long tools and still go deeper than 27mm?

Just wondering if you really have done this or not.....

Saying you can, and actually doing it are different things Jay.

I do the Second. You get these looking blocks to run on the sled into the milling chamber?

Of course, Lava design software, or Lava 7 won't allow such a tall bridge to begin with...

Go ahead and show me something....

 

[Marcusthegladiator CDT]

Eureka! I applaud you. And admire your love for living on the edge. But...
A big butt...
WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU THINKING!
Looks like your asking for trouble.
Did you take a picture of the finished job? I have to see it to believe it.
I'd much rather like to see a photo of a catastrophie of a bridge with the end of a bur sticking out of it.
But that's just me.
Way to gamble brother. Way to gamble.

 

[DMC]

We do this often. LOL Of course it worked! I'm not a gambling man.

I don't like buying THICK Zirconia. It looks like poo-doo when sintered, and is expensive.

The Thinner (20mm and below) stock of Zirconia looks different after sintering for some reason.

I think the Isostatic press on thick pieces does not work as well?

This had other units in the case, and we needed all units to look the same.

Of course, you could have used a 5-axis mill and "flattened" the bridge, but that's not using your head and no fun involved.

 

[Macron Dental Lab]

We do this often. LOL Of course it worked! I'm not a gambling man.

I don't like buying THICK Zirconia. It looks like poo-doo when sintered, and is expensive.

The Thinner (20mm and below) stock of Zirconia looks different after sintering for some reason.

I think the Isostatic press on thick pieces does not work as well?

This had other units in the case, and we needed all units to look the same.

Of course, you could have used a 5-axis mill and "flattened" the bridge, but that's not using your head and no fun involved.

Nice trick lol OMG well i do this every day but i have 5 axis and a great cam soft and i only get most of the time 16mm disks and fit 22mm bridges.

 

[mrcadcam]

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[BobCDT]

Scott,
Brilliant!!
But, why not put it in a 5axis mill? No manual calculation of block amgle and block setup time required. And, you could stay with the same thickness of block.
Bob
PS how did you you make out up here,last week?

 

[DMC]

It was fun. I see most people get glazed eyes and just aren't ready for open CAM.

I can smell their brain smoking.

I just got back from Alabama and Georgia again. Headed out again soon!

You want a couple of Haptic devices and smart-optics scanners from Sensable?

I have a axis mill. Sometimes I just need to do stuff like this to keep my mind working. LOL

Makes my employees also wake-up and get creative to "One-up" me.

 

[lcmlabforum]

We need a 'mill-off' between the 2!
Someone come up with a list of simple criteria for success, time to finish, number of burs needed,
types of blocks to be tested, strength before and after sintering, someone have an Instron/MTS
to test finish product, visual inspection, then someone impartial can provide the pre-op scan/digital
file of desired output, and let the engines roar!
It's going to be like Nascar for dental lab that does digital solutions . . .
LCM

 

[NicelyMKV]

Could you imagine just being surrounded by these all day? I would just sit and stare non stop......Awesome!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQCXOHlOXW0&feature=youtube_gdata_player


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[Drizzt]

Could you imagine just being surrounded by these all day? I would just sit and stare non stop......Awesome!

Deckel Maho Gildemeister SAUER Dental Trailer ULTRASONIC 10 / 20 - YouTube


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Can I come and sit there too ????

 

[DMC]

A Lab in VA has DMG. They installed it in Second story of a house...

Months later, even after reinforcing the structure of house....the house was falling apart!

They had to relocate the mill! LOL

Too much POWAH!

 

[BobCDT]

Scott,
Is that story real? I low you goof around a lot. I can't even believe the Sauer sales team would sell the mill onto that location.
How's the no P&D going?
I think it's a great move for you.
Bob

 

[molarmaker]

Scott has pulled my butt out of the fire more than once. If Scott says a duck will plow, just shutup and get the harness

 

[NicelyMKV]

Apparently high end audio manufacturer YG- Acoustics does! Lol

Carmel™'s cabinet is machined using 5-axis technology (the competition is limited to 3 axes). This avoids the parallel internal surfaces common in other so-called “complex enclosure designs". FocusedElimination™ anti-resonance technology keeps mechanical losses lower than any competing speaker, by combining the minimized turbulence of a sealed design with the low friction otherwise associated with enclosure-free concepts.

 

[DentureDude]

Scott has pulled my butt out of the fire more than once. If Scott says a duck will plow, just shutup and get the harness

OMG! ITS TRUE!

 

[DMC]

Scott,
Is that story real? I low you goof around a lot. I can't even believe the Sauer sales team would sell the mill onto that location.
How's the no P&D going?
I think it's a great move for you.
Bob

Duckie Lee is owner of Protec in VA (99.9% Koreans). He is my age. They have 50 employees and Daytron and DMG mills and more. They had to move the mill out of 2nd story of renovated House.

Totally true story!