Zr opaque liquid

[Giovanni Bellamacina]

Just be careful using these "opaquers." The way they opaque is by introducing a material that will prevent the zirconia crystals from "bonding together, creating air gaps between them. This causes the light to bend or refract as it passes through, creating opacity.

That is the upside.

The downside is that this also damages the zirconia. If applied too heavily it can weaken and even cause thin margins to warp.

We (Ivoclar) don't have one for that reason, and suggest it not be used on any of our materials.

Hi Patrick, thanks a lot for your advices, can you kindly provide some lectures to have insight on what you just mentioned ? Thanks in advance

 

[JKraver]

Why not opaque the abutment or tibase?

 

[millennium]

Where would I buy Chang's liquid?

 

[Car 54]

Where would I buy Chang's liquid?

https://idscad.com/category/changs_liquids/

Check out the White Plus:

https://idscad.com/zirconia-coloring-liquids/

 

[millennium]

https://idscad.com/category/changs_liquids/

Check out the White Plus:

https://idscad.com/zirconia-coloring-liquids/

I went on their website, it says orders are unavailable.

 

[millennium]

Does any other company sell a similar product?

 

[Car 54]

Does any other company sell a similar product?

Origin. I use Effect Shade White Opaque #3 because I like to dilute it with color liquid (blue) 1:1 which then gives enough intensity to see better where I'm applying it. A lot of people like the #2 (medium intensity) but I think they're using it straight.

Additional Coloring Supplies – B&D Dental Technologies

Origin Chroma system also includes incisal effect liquids, white opaquing blocker, and tools for dialing in the chroma accuracy. We're not content with compromise, you shouldn't be either! Rely on our experts.

www.bnddental.com

 

[millennium]

Origin. I use Effect Shade White Opaque #3 because I like to dilute it with color liquid (blue) 1:1 which then gives enough intensity to see better where I'm applying it. A lot of people like the #2 (medium intensity) but I think they're using it straight.

Additional Coloring Supplies – B&D Dental Technologies

Origin Chroma system also includes incisal effect liquids, white opaquing blocker, and tools for dialing in the chroma accuracy. We're not content with compromise, you shouldn't be either! Rely on our experts.

www.bnddental.com

Thank you.

 

[RCKSTR]

I received an email saying Changs can be ordered again..

 

[sidesh0wb0b]

why not just opaque the abutment?

 

[millennium]

I received an email saying Changs can be ordered again..

Yes, GMax bought them out. They called me back and I will order.

 

[millennium]

why not just opaque the abutment?

It's a crown that's going over an old stripped pfm crown that the dr. doesn't want to remove the metal.

 

[JKraver]

Add extra die spacer to buccal and fire miyo snow on the inside of the zirconia.

 

[Car 54]

Add extra die spacer to buccal and fire miyo snow on the inside of the zirconia.

The liquids do work pretty slick though, they go on even and consistent. It's nice to have a bottle of that stuff sitting around

 

[millennium]

What about lingual mesial distal and occlusal. Picky dr. believe it or not.

Add extra die spacer to buccal and fire miyo snow on the inside of the zirconia

 

[Car 54]

What about lingual mesial distal and occlusal. Picky dr. believe it or not.

Agree, that could go on a little inconsistently and not fit right. Go get you some bottle of that magic stuff, shazam
And since this won't be an anodized surface, I would really get the #3 stuff, as you may need to put it on straight. Or, re-read
this thread, as I think someone else mentioned another vendor's liquid? The "Changs" white stuff is pretty intense.

 

[JKraver]

What about lingual mesial distal and occlusal. Picky dr. believe it or not.

Its been a while I thought this was an anterior. I don't typically buy a product for one off crowns, also my Drs would remove the metal. I would extra die spacer and fire white inside the crown. Fit the crown to the die afterwards with some fit checker.

 

[millennium]

Agree, that could go on a little inconsistently and not fit right. Go get you some bottle of that magic stuff, shazam
And since this won't be an anodized surface, I would really get the #3 stuff, as you may need to put it on straight. Or, re-read
this thread, as I think someone else mentioned another vendor's liquid? The "Changs" white stuff is pretty intense.

Already in the process of getting Chang's. The company that manufactures it now sells it directly. At least that's what they said.

 

[millennium]

Its been a while I thought this was an anterior. I don't typically buy a product for one off crowns, also my Drs would remove the metal. I would extra die spacer and fire white inside the crown. Fit the crown to the die afterwards with some fit checker.

It's a bicuspid. The liquid is around $50 so no big deal. If I don't use it again I will paint my nails with it or something

 

[Car 54]

Already in the process of getting Chang's. The company that manufactures it now sells it directly. At least that's what they said.

That stuff will do the job. When you get it, be sure to fire a couple of test crowns, one with straight liquid, and one cut 1:1 with distilled water to get an idea of the intensity you will need. Even on anodized abutments, I use Origins cut with water routinely on my zirconia implant crowns.