Which milling machine should I get

[Decalcified]

What are some comparisons of milling emax wax dry then pressing versus wet milling emax cad? Advantages and disadvantages of each? I am thinking of starting a one man lab soon, would appreciate your thoughts? Thanks!

 

[2thm8kr]

This has been hashed over many times. There is a trove of information here.

 

[CoolHandLuke]

you cant drymill emax.

you can dry mill wax and press it into emax, but thats not the same thing

 

[doug]

There are many options out there. We have 2 VHF 4 axis mills. We have been very happy with them.

 

[CatamountRob]

you cant drymill emax.

you can dry mill wax and press it into emax, but thats not the same thing

".......milling emax wax dry then pressing versus wet milling emax..."

I see no mention there of dry milling emax?

 

[Decalcified]

This has been hashed over many times. There is a trove of information here.

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Trust me I know. I've been watching these forums for about 2 years before I finally joined.. I guess I've just wanted a very specific answer.

 

[CatamountRob]

Trust me I know. I've been watching these forums for about 2 years before I finally joined.. I guess I've just wanted a very specific answer.

Wow.
You watched us for 2 years and still joined?!?

 

[CoolHandLuke]

sorry i'm not all there today

 

[Decalcified]

sorry i'm not all there today

Emax and emax wax does sound very similar.

 

[Decalcified]

There are many options out there. We have 2 VHF 4 axis mills. We have been very happy with them.

Does this mill emax cad?

 

[zero_zero]

The best bet is to start up with a pressing furnace only...that can be used for regular porcelain work as well. When you have enough workflow you could start getting into digital by buying a scanner...then a cheapo printer and finally a mill.

 

[Decalcified]

The best bet is to start up with a pressing furnace only...that can be used for regular porcelain work as well. When you have enough workflow you could start getting into digital by buying a scanner...then a cheapo printer and finally a mill.

This was my first instinct, but why a printer?

 

[doug]

Does this mill emax cad?

No, we mill wax and press


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[Decalcified]

Wow.
You watched us for 2 years and still joined?!?

No, we mill wax and press


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how is the fit versus hand waxed? I've heard it's not as good, and you may have to rewax the margins? Any truth to that?

 

[zero_zero]

This was my first instinct, but why a printer?

Because it's relative inexpensive compared to a mill and will let you print crowns and diversify into other stuff as well...

 

[doug]

We get very good fits with milled wax. I was surprised as I had thought that there would be issues. We spent some time working out the parameters, but it has been pretty smooth. We just about always tweak the occlusion to make it a little nicer.

 

[grantoz]

mill wax press cheaper stronger more reliable results good arrrr

 

[Ryan]

By a Roland and a Zubler Pressing furnace. In my opinion the fit is much better when it's pressed. Also if you are still casting you can mill those units as well. Here is a picture from a lecture I attended. Milled (left) Pressed (right). The technician that took this photo and gave the lecture is Christian Hannker.

 

[Decalcified]

We get very good fits with milled wax. I was surprised as I had thought that there would be issues. We spent some time working out the parameters, but it has been pretty smooth. We just about always tweak the occlusion to make it a little nicer.[/QUOT

By a Roland and a Zubler Pressing furnace. In my opinion the fit is much better when it's pressed. Also if you are still casting you can mill those units as well. Here is a picture from a lecture I attended. Milled (left) Pressed (right). The technician that took this photo and gave the lecture is Christian Hannker.

wow! That's a huge difference. I liked Roland better anyway, for a few reasons. Right now I'm a Ceramist at a large lab And I don't like the emax cad. The fit OR the color (seems too washed out or the stains don't take to it as well?) thanks you are all awesome and have so much knowledge and experience!

 

[Affinity]

The big difference is you can press 5-6 units from a $20 ingot, as opposed to one from a $30+ block.