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There's no extra charge for polishing below the margin for 3Shape users!
Straumann did not polish my abutments .They were very unrefined in comparison to what I have received from Argen,Core 3D and Nobel.
 
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I think you need to raise a complain with the rep and find out if this was done in the US. I know
they have a new center in Arlington but not sure if QC is human or automated yet.
Cory - care to chime in?
LCM
 
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Straumann did not polish my abutments .They were very unrefined in comparison to what I have received from Argen,Core 3D and Nobel.

I was just messing with you about polishing. I don't know what everyone has as their standards for polishing below margins.
 
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straumann just paid me a visit.

their ti abuts are from premills. would that help identify why the fits and finishes seem to be sub par? or are you more or less talking about zirconia?
 
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straumann just paid me a visit.

their ti abuts are from premills. would that help identify why the fits and finishes seem to be sub par? or are you more or less talking about zirconia?
Could be . I spoke to my rep about my concerns.
He is also aware that I will not be using their zirconia until they can assure me that their qc sees an optometrist.
 
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View attachment 24692

RKM you need to ensure you are designing an abutment whose margin radius is as least the same diameter as the drill used to cut it.

when in doubt, have a look at the settings and you should see it.

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Thanks for this! I had issues with split files and Argen tech told me it's hit or miss. So I gave up on split files. I went back to the last one I did a while back and it was red all the way around just above the margin. That's where it was held up when I originally seated. It wasn't even a crazy angled design or anything. Designed a split file abutment/crown this week following your recommendation and it dropped right on. Thanks again!
 
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Here's a split file.
abutment 3i original
argen z esthetic fcz

well done Biomet. nice polish invoice to follow ($$$)

DSC_0532_zpsbhjfizhm.jpg


This will be my first modeless implant case because 3i doesn't have dim analog.
 
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Here's a split file.
abutment 3i original
argen z esthetic fcz

well done Biomet. nice polish invoice to follow ($$$)

DSC_0532_zpsbhjfizhm.jpg


This will be my first modeless implant case because 3i doesn't have dim analog.
About time you went model less for single implants.
 
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What I have learned is the more you complain the better hands touch your cases. The less you complain you the more you get the drunk, one handed, eyepatch technician.
 
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Did you know that Straumann does not include their custom milled abutments in that wonderful warranty of theirs?
On 2 separate occasions with 2 separate Drs, there was an implant failure . Surgeon was compensated but not me.

Rep said their milling centre was a separate entity and therefore not covered.
He was hoping I would accept $400 in analogs and scan bodies instead.

Could you folks check with your reps and ask them if this is true?
Either my rep is lying or Straumann is misleading us.
 
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rep has always given us cast-to's or ti-bases for warranty.. your rep is half lying.
 
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Now as a business owner, I wouldn't be happy with anything but reimbursement.
and yes, it is a little difficult to "back" a brand that pushes OEM except for "their" non-OEM. Its an expensive pita to manufacture for the most part.
warranty doesn't really mean S* when it doesn't warranty everything.

need to use "their IC's" or warranty is void.. who's warranty? I buy the IC's, so where's my warranty?
On the flip side, my Straumann Rep has been very good to me, which tends to give me a lot more "patience".

And, I'll still make money with it... well, maybe the 7th person I get on the phone to on Monday can figure out why the upload portal won't except my case...
until then I ain't making anything Banghead
 
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we know. yes, we know that too.
 
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