Unlicensed labs

[rkm rdt]

Ontario dentist allegedly used unlicensed veneers in patients' mouths and pocketed the profit

Lawsuit filed against Hisham Kaloti, who operated The Smile Stylist, in the Greater Toronto Area/Oakville area before closing in 2022

nationalpost.com

 

[kimba]

My God,
I cannot believe a dentist used a cheap chinese laboratory without telling the patient.!!!

I can at least sleep easy knowing that he would have passed the savings onto said patient

 

[doug]

Interesting question here. In Florida your are supposed to be registered with a CDT on the staff. Okay, you can stop laughing now, you know that's just not true. Labs are paid by the dentist. There are 8 million unregistered labs in south Florida doing work for a lot of docs, even some high-end guys use them as they are so cheap. What options do Canadian dentists have for lab service if the lab has to be registered and they collect from a separate invoice to the patient.

 

[rkm rdt]

Interesting question here. In Florida your are supposed to be registered with a CDT on the staff. Okay, you can stop laughing now, you know that's just not true. Labs are paid by the dentist. There are 8 million unregistered labs in south Florida doing work for a lot of docs, even some high-end guys use them as they are so cheap. What options do Canadian dentists have for lab service if the lab has to be registered and they collect from a separate invoice to the patient.

The labs are all registered with the provincial college . The dentist and patient can see who supervises the lab in question. Therefore there is accountability on the lab side.
I’m not sure I answered your question Doug

 

[doug]

I guess the question was: are the docs required to work with a specific group of labs, All of them being registered in their providence or the entire country of Canada. All labs in Canada are registered? Are there "garage" labs there?

 

[rkm rdt]

I guess the question was: are the docs required to work with a specific group of labs, All of them being registered in their providence or the entire country of Canada. All labs in Canada are registered? Are there "garage" labs there?

There are unlicensed labs out there for sure. Most dentists would send to local labs just for the convenience and time factor but I’m sure there are some that send out of the country. I dont think they are obligated under law to send to registered Canadian labs as far as I know. In fact the patient could request it since they are paying the bill.

The issue as I see it, as in this case, is that the dentist marked up the lab bill to make a profit from it. That is a conflict of interest violation which is punishable by his dental college. The reason he was caught was that the patient probably complained to his college about the crappy work and the college investigated.

 

[zero_zero]

The issue as I see it, as in this case, is that the dentist marked up the lab bill to make a profit from it. That is a conflict of interest violation which is punishable by his dental college. The reason he was caught was that the patient probably complained to his college about the crappy work and the college investigated.

He's still practicing and prolly will get off with a slap on his wrist ...

"Kaloti is still an official member of The Royal College of Dental Surgeons of Ontario (RCDSO), and runs a practice in Norwood, Ont. "

 

[sidesh0wb0b]

He's still practicing and prolly will get off with a slap on his wrist ...

"Kaloti is still an official member of The Royal College of Dental Surgeons of Ontario (RCDSO), and runs a practice in Norwood, Ont. "

that was 5mo ago too, would love to know where this all ends up. and he closed his doors in 2022, but is practicing at a new location...probably doing the same thing. interesting set of circumstances. i would imagine it will take a bit longer for this to get sorted/settled.

 

[dt2013]

Interesting question here. In Florida your are supposed to be registered with a CDT on the staff. Okay, you can stop laughing now, you know that's just not true. Labs are paid by the dentist. There are 8 million unregistered labs in south Florida doing work for a lot of docs, even some high-end guys use them as they are so cheap. What options do Canadian dentists have for lab service if the lab has to be registered and they collect from a separate invoice to the patient.

"There are 8 million unregistered labs in south Florida doing work for a lot of docs," This does not sound right....

 

[rkm rdt]

He's still practicing and prolly will get off with a slap on his wrist ...

"Kaloti is still an official member of The Royal College of Dental Surgeons of Ontario (RCDSO), and runs a practice in Norwood, Ont. "

Probably, as long as he pays his dues.

 

[GG - J]

Fake Long Island dentist busted pulling woman's teeth in her kitchen: DA

A 70-year-old Long Island woman has been charged with practicing unlicensed dentistry from the kitchen of her one-bedroom apartment, authorities say. Gladys Serrano pleaded not guilty Monday to unauthorized practice of a profession, a felony, and was released to pre-trial services with...

www.nbcnewyork.com

 

[EJADA]

The labs are all registered with the provincial college . The dentist and patient can see who supervises the lab in question. Therefore there is accountability on the lab side.
I’m not sure I answered your question Doug

List Of Dental laboratories in Florida

Download the list of Dental laboratories in Florida. Smartscrapers provides an accurate directory and the latest data on the number of Dental laboratories in Florida

rentechdigital.com

Just something I found. No idea as to its accuracy.

 

[susan smith]

Ontario dentists are supposed to use only registered labs. All labs in Ontario are required to have either a dentist or RDT (Registered Dental Technologists) managing them. I am not sure about using out of country labs. I believe the lab has to still meet certain standards to be used. This case was mentioned in my class but they were hush hush on what exactly was going on in the case.

 

[TheLabGuy]

Ontario dentists are supposed to use only registered labs. All labs in Ontario are required to have either a dentist or RDT (Registered Dental Technologists) managing them. I am not sure about using out of country labs. I believe the lab has to still meet certain standards to be used. This case was mentioned in my class but they were hush hush on what exactly was going on in the case.

Some States require the labs be registered through the state dental association as well. Texas is like this, Dentists in Texas must use a Texas registered lab or face a fine. However, pretty sure nobody has ever been fined and never gets enforced and I imagine Texas Dentists are not even aware of it for the most part. Also, to have a lab in state of Texas, one CDT must be on Staff as well. Somewhat similar to Canada, but enforcing it is where the ball gets dropped in these type of situations.

 

[rkm rdt]

The Ontario regulations are outdated . Any or all aspects must be supervised an RDT or dentist as Susan has indicated.
However we send files for custom abutments stateside where there are no Canadian rdts.
I hear they are fed to the gators…