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    The benefits of a Model-Less workflow

    Discussion in 'Medit' started by Glenn Kennedy, Jan 29, 2018.

    1. Glenn Kennedy
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      Six lower incisors? :eek:
       
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      Sorry to disagree user,

      I count 9 with only 2 bicuspids.
       
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      Are any labs going fully model-less? I love the idea, but it also scares the hell out of me.
       
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      Buccal contour on the left does appear deceiving, but you can clearly see on the right that its bicuspids.

      But whos counting...
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      i mean, imagine if what you got from your machine was right in shade and contour and you didnt need to do anything to it ?
       
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      Right, I can definitely imagine how awesome that would be. Do scans from an IOS tend to be that much more accurate than traditional polyvinyl impressions?
       
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      @CoolHandLuke...then you probably don't have a firm grasp of anatomy, function and esthetics. Ive seen work from revered seminar giving anointed ones that don't measure up.

      @Bryce Hiller...No.
       
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      if i'm making what the patient himself/herself described, i can't care what other techs or docs think of my capacity to understand and create anything. i've satisfied the only important customer in the equation. if that means make a square blue central against ovate laterals and three bi's fine. i make-a three bi's.

      exactly how i've extracted what the patient wanted - lets just say its telepathy and move on.
       
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      Lol...sorry for asking.
       
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      To your questions, yes. I do quite a bit of model free work. The Drs that are doing it are the least to complain about anything. I suspect they often whisper to themselves, 'good enough'.
       
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      I had a doc that went cerec who told me his crowns were “clinically acceptable “ .
       
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      you've seen Key Opinion Leaders. yeah. waste of time.
       
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      And there it is! "Clinically Acceptable". The state of Dental Technology. I have watched this trend over the last 40 years and happy to retire shortly.
       
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      It's only the lab who "goes modeless"
      Dentists have the actual patient in the chair.
       
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      I wouldn't tell anyone I have that machine.
       
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      must be nice.

      however i wouldn't say outsourcing to argen qualifies. you might get a finished product back, but thats not the same thing. like, could you even order a PFZ and get a crown with porcelain back?
       
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      I don't get a finished product back.
      Much the same as having a milling machine in the back room.

      You could order a zirconia coping and a milled emax so yes you can order a pfz. You just have to do the f'ing. Eviltongue
       
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      so indeed, would be nice to ask the machine to make a pfz and not have to do the f'ing eh ?
       

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