Straumann scan bodies with IOS systems

[2thm8kr]

a calendar ?

Ah, that's what those things are for.

 

[Smithwick0208]

4-5 days for the Itero model to get here
We then have to scan the Cadent model with the Straumann scan bodies in place. Design and send the files to Straumann with 3shape.
5-7 day turn around on the Straumann abutments.
Then tack on the in house time we need to process the rest of the case.

 

[rkm rdt]

Wow.

I get everything back in 48 hrs.

 

[Mohammad Khair]

its straumann scanbody i guess

 

[eyeloveteeth]

problem is when you design the straumann abutment, and get their special analog to put in the model, the tissue is all jacked up. It's almost like you have to index the itero model, then cut it back, and then put soft tissue in, then but abutment in....

 

[Mohammad Khair]

problem is when you design the straumann abutment, and get their special analog to put in the model, the tissue is all jacked up. It's almost like you have to index the itero model, then cut it back, and then put soft tissue in, then but abutment in....

that's mean the analogue in the library u use to design model is different of the one you have in hand.

 

[RJS8669]

I have the library and we are currently sending design files through 3shape for Straumann to mill. The problem is processing IOS cases that the doctor uses the Straumann scan bodies. Getting a model made off of a 3M scan is going to be a hassle. The turn around time is going to be way too long to finish out a case like this.

Are you able to use ModelBuilder with the IOS scans - in other words, do you have the .dme files for the scan bodies and repositionable analog? I'm saying if you can create an .stl file for the model with a receptacle for the analog, I can print your models. I've done a handful of cases using TruDef scans and the Core 3D scan bodies / analogs, and the process works. PM me if you are interested and I will send you my phone number so we can discuss.

 

[AltreX]

Are models from "Innovation MediTech" good enough for inlays/onlays? Guys can you sugest which way is better to produce digital model fron intra scan? Printing vs. Milling?
Thanks a lot for your time

 

[eyeloveteeth]

that's mean the analogue in the library u use to design model is different of the one you have in hand.

no it's not the analogue fit....

the abutment is designed to put positive pressure on the tissue. The iTero model does not reflect that.

 

[rkm rdt]

Are models from "Innovation MediTech" good enough for inlays/onlays? Guys can you sugest which way is better to produce digital model fron intra scan? Printing vs. Milling?
Thanks a lot for your time

The way I understand it, ( don't even go there),milled models are patented through ITero/ In visalign.. Therefore printed models are the only option for other IOS systems.

Keep in mind that no matter what you design and fabricate from an ios, the model is used to verify your design,not to fabricate from. Porcelain layering is the exception of course.

 

[Mohammad Khair]

The way I understand it, ( don't even go there),milled models are patented through ITero/ In visalign.. Therefore printed models are the only option for other IOS systems.

Keep in mind that no matter what you design and fabricate from an ios, the model is used to verify your design,not to fabricate from. Porcelain layering is the exception of course.

are you sure???

 

[rkm rdt]

maybe sort of?

 

[Mohammad Khair]

what u r saying does not make sense to me.
may be your talking about ortho models.

 

[rkm rdt]

So milled models are not patented by Itero?

 

[Mohammad Khair]

no, up to the best of my knowledge you can build models on 3shape, dental wings, and exocad.

 

[Mohammad Khair]

and mill it or print it anywhere, it can be export as stl file

 

[Mohammad Khair]

even inlap has this option to build up a model with wood blocks

 

[Smithwick0208]

Definitely going to try to talk the doctor into in house milled abutments

Are you able to use ModelBuilder with the IOS scans - in other words, do you have the .dme files for the scan bodies and repositionable analog? I'm saying if you can create an .stl file for the model with a receptacle for the analog, I can print your models. I've done a handful of cases using TruDef scans and the Core 3D scan bodies / analogs, and the process works. PM me if you are interested and I will send you my phone number so we can discuss.

Straumann has the geometries for the hole where the repositioning analog goes. They want us to purchase the CS2 model builder software to process the model files annnnddd I'm not doing that. We don't do enough of those cases to pay for the software.

 

[Smithwick0208]

Are models from "Innovation MediTech" good enough for inlays/onlays? Guys can you sugest which way is better to produce digital model fron intra scan? Printing vs. Milling?
Thanks a lot for your time

Printing!

 

[Smithwick0208]

The way I understand it, ( don't even go there),milled models are patented through ITero/ In visalign.. Therefore printed models are the only option for other IOS systems.

Keep in mind that no matter what you design and fabricate from an ios, the model is used to verify your design,not to fabricate from. Porcelain layering is the exception of course.

If I wanted to waste a mill on model milling, I have blanks to do that. It's just not practical.