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I use ivocolor combined with noritake czr paste stains- I find the CZR blends better and has a more natural look out of the two sometimes, and their glaze creates a better finish than ivocolor. I use ivocolor internally when doing cutbacks/ build ups (I use emax ceram). I have to say I'm not wild about it and it takes some time to figure out application of the stains- some can be grainy. I'm also not wild about emax ceram- tends to look grey. Before even getting to surface staining, I think infiltrating the green state as accurately as possible and having a system that is reliable and predictable is key, that's why I'm looking to upgrade to Art Orals ZR ceramics this year and add miyo to my drawer to compliment the ZR I use.