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Do you guys know any good lab out there that are milling valplast and duraflex partials, and how does it work? they print/mill the partials and we glue the teeth?
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I think it's rather pricey, the lab wouldn't send you just the base is my guess but rather it all finished, here you go:


I don't think we've done a flexible for you at Mabel? Send us scans, we print the model and do everything conventionally. $129+digital model(s) start to finish.
 
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Do you guys know any good lab out there that are milling valplast and duraflex partials, and how does it work? they print/mill the partials and we glue the teeth?
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Having worked with most thermoplastics, I say yes there would be an up-charge just for the sake of digital, and no you want conventional only. Just because someone sells it doesn't mean they know what they're doing. That goes for D or A.
 
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Do you guys know any good lab out there that are milling valplast and duraflex partials, and how does it work? they print/mill the partials and we glue the teeth?
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By the way. How did trying to inject Clearmet go with an old valplast setup you posted about awhile back?
 
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Do you guys know any good lab out there that are milling valplast and duraflex partials, and how does it work? they print/mill the partials and we glue the teeth?
need info.. thanks
With traditional duraflex or any other thermoplastic or nylon type partials the teeth have to be mechanically set with holes in them. I can not imagine having them glued in a milled or printed is going to work for now. So I believe in traditional pressing for better retention. If you can not bond a reline to them, how are you going to glue those teeth and using what.
 
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Yes it is possible. In all honesty it's remarkable the technology that exist today. The company is Arfona, or arfonaprinting.com. The process is possible due to there special patented printer that prints Valplast. There is the material for the base and material for the teeth that work together during the print job. It is not just printing the base then you glue the teeth. It one monolithic structure.
The fit is great and remarkably flexible and the occlusion is spot on. The only downside is the esthetics, very dull almost mat-like. They will be at LAB Day introducting there 2.0, whatever that means. Hopefully they have improved the esthetics because everything else works great.
On a side note digital is the future. Just saw a video today from Absolute Dental Service talking about partnering with a company that is printing Zirconian crowns. Now to be fair both of these materials are no where near the current gold standards we use today. But it's 2022 and printing metal, thermoplastic and zirconian are all things that are happening now. Pretty soon we will be printing people, lol.
 
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Do you guys know any good lab out there that are milling valplast and duraflex partials, and how does it work? they print/mill the partials and we glue the teeth?
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we mill acetal and have milled some out of myersons visiclear material. both for our lab and for other labs.
typically, we get a digital design and mill it. we have gotten impressions before and had a design made and proceeded from there.
does that answer your question? (we do not print the material currently)
 
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Yes it is possible. In all honesty it's remarkable the technology that exist today. The company is Arfona, or arfonaprinting.com. The process is possible due to there special patented printer that prints Valplast. There is the material for the base and material for the teeth that work together during the print job. It is not just printing the base then you glue the teeth. It one monolithic structure.
The fit is great and remarkably flexible and the occlusion is spot on. The only downside is the esthetics, very dull almost mat-like. They will be at LAB Day introducting there 2.0, whatever that means. Hopefully they have improved the esthetics because everything else works great.
On a side note digital is the future. Just saw a video today from Absolute Dental Service talking about partnering with a company that is printing Zirconian crowns. Now to be fair both of these materials are no where near the current gold standards we use today. But it's 2022 and printing metal, thermoplastic and zirconian are all things that are happening now. Pretty soon we will be printing people, lol.
Well it is 3D but the old filament technology that is not full proof. From Nozzle temp to clogging and other technical issue. I am not sure if it is going to fly.
 
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Well it is 3D but the old filament technology that is not full proof. From Nozzle temp to clogging and other technical issue. I am not sure if it is going to fly.
I can imagine the stringing and smoothing out with nylon. I've had to work on some milled units. 3D doesn't resolve the old issues with those thermoplastics.
 
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