Open Source Community Anatomy Library

[filippos]

Appreciate the wisdom, always looking for more decent references to build from
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Wow. Well done mimicking the natural tooth here. Bravoo

 

[filippos]

Appreciate the wisdom, always looking for more decent references to build from
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Wow. Well done mimicking the natural tooth here. Bravoo

 

[DigiSculpt Design Center]

Wow. Well done mimicking the natural tooth here. Bravoo

Appreciate it, ill admit it looks pretty natural in regular use cases, if you have more reference models available I would like to take a whack at building more for everyday cases

 

[filippos]

I agree, it blends nice with the adjacent teeth morphology, because your tooth is based on a natural shaped teeth and not in a random library.
Sure, I have a quite big collection. I'll be back with some photos soon, today or tomorrow maybe

 

[filippos]

Here you are. Photos are just with phone, okay, but you can work with these.
I have to photograph these on my studio so you can see the texture and micromorphology too. I'll do that when I have time

 

[filippos]

And a few more here

 

[apostolis159]

@ToofMaker nice thread, some very nice information on anatomy here.
Slightly of topic, but how do you go about making a library? Is there a write-up or video available somewhere? I'm very interested, not necessarily making from scratch, but mostly tweaking libraries I already have/like.
Also, this one you posted looks amazing on this case.

 

[DigiSculpt Design Center]

@ToofMaker nice thread, some very nice information on anatomy here.
Slightly of topic, but how do you go about making a library? Is there a write-up or video available somewhere? I'm very interested, not necessarily making from scratch, but mostly tweaking libraries I already have/like.
Also, this one you posted looks amazing on this case.

Well theres the right way, and the quick and dirty way I use for internal production. Heres a quick guide to what I do for my purposes.


Ide also note that for the most natural look, you'd probably just want to section out the tooth as save that mesh as an EOFF, rather than sculpt at all

For more information on the right way of doing it, check out this video

 

[DigiSculpt Design Center]

And a few more here

These look great, im getting pummeled by work at the moment but I'm excited to play with them soon

 

[SVK]

How to master morphology when there are so many shapes and the way they differ from young to old???
How to choose a specific shape for a patient. What factors should be considered when doing complete prosthesis?
If only some are missing how to identify the exact shape?

 

[DigiSculpt Design Center]

How to master morphology when there are so many shapes and the way they differ from young to old???
How to choose a specific shape for a patient. What factors should be considered when doing complete prosthesis?
If only some are missing how to identify the exact shape?

I find there's no direct answer to this. I've worked with groups that want designs to be specific down to the point of anatomy to be dependent on the patients regular diet, and others that just want "Lee Culp Young" to be used on all patients. The answer you get to this will largely be dependent on where and what decade the answerer studied. Since I majored in English Education, I just try and find a nice harmony between making the dentition look natural but slightly more defined. Match the buccal corridor, match ridges, keep contacts broad but light, minimize excursive movement obstacles, get honest feedback from the technicians or clients working from your designs, it all just becomes muscle memory.

 

[filippos]

How to master morphology when there are so many shapes and the way they differ from young to old???
How to choose a specific shape for a patient. What factors should be considered when doing complete prosthesis?
If only some are missing how to identify the exact shape?

Well, that's why our profession is soo nice and soo challenging at the same time.
Shapes are countless.

I believe the best way to learn morphology is to study natural teeth. Select nice, natural teeth models, from cases worked or antagonists or whatever and study them. Just stand and observe them. Grab a mechanicical pencil and highlight the ridges, incisal edge, cervical part, the volumes,.the textures and every characteristic each tooth has. Do this for every model. Then repeat. And then, try to mimic the natural teeth. Wax them, carve into stone or soap or idk what else comes into your mind. The aim is guide your hand to craft what you saw before and master the knowledge you observed. This is what I basically do every time a nice natural dentition come into my hand.

Old teeth, actually are young teeth that aged through time and during their life, they got affected from the forces that appear in the mouth during mastication. Wear facets for example or loss of labial characteristic. If you exclude the color and shade changes, you can get a young tooth to old, just by removing volume from the correct parts. I mean that it's important to understand how time affects teeth and ages them. Then you can craft them easily and correct.
As far as I know, a bibliography relation between male and female teeth does not exist. But for sure, there is a racial relation for teeth. There are Asian, Caucasian and so on. Please correct me if I'm wrong, not sure about the male and female teeth.

Best way to pick a shape for a patient is a photo where you can see some teeth. If it's an old photo from a young age, just age the teeth as we told before. If not, the face shape can help, if it's round or ovoid etc. Also, teeth must match the age of the patient. Finally just ask them if you have no info. Any guideline can help.

I believe also working simultaneously on digital design and analog, practicing morphology on both, you can get the full pros, where each one will help you improve on the other way.

 

[SVK]

Well, that's why our profession is soo nice and soo challenging at the same time.
Shapes are countless.

I believe the best way to learn morphology is to study natural teeth. Select nice, natural teeth models, from cases worked or antagonists or whatever and study them. Just stand and observe them. Grab a mechanicical pencil and highlight the ridges, incisal edge, cervical part, the volumes,.the textures and every characteristic each tooth has. Do this for every model. Then repeat. And then, try to mimic the natural teeth. Wax them, carve into stone or soap or idk what else comes into your mind. The aim is guide your hand to craft what you saw before and master the knowledge you observed. This is what I basically do every time a nice natural dentition come into my hand.

Old teeth, actually are young teeth that aged through time and during their life, they got affected from the forces that appear in the mouth during mastication. Wear facets for example or loss of labial characteristic. If you exclude the color and shade changes, you can get a young tooth to old, just by removing volume from the correct parts. I mean that it's important to understand how time affects teeth and ages them. Then you can craft them easily and correct.
As far as I know, a bibliography relation between male and female teeth does not exist. But for sure, there is a racial relation for teeth. There are Asian, Caucasian and so on. Please correct me if I'm wrong, not sure about the male and female teeth.

Best way to pick a shape for a patient is a photo where you can see some teeth. If it's an old photo from a young age, just age the teeth as we told before. If not, the face shape can help, if it's round or ovoid etc. Also, teeth must match the age of the patient. Finally just ask them if you have no info. Any guideline can help.

I believe also working simultaneously on digital design and analog, practicing morphology on both, you can get the full pros, where each one will help you improve on the other way.

Thankyou so much GURU ji (sir) for your valuable time and advice!!

 

[SVK]

I find there's no direct answer to this. I've worked with groups that want designs to be specific down to the point of anatomy to be dependent on the patients regular diet, and others that just want "Lee Culp Young" to be used on all patients. The answer you get to this will largely be dependent on where and what decade the answerer studied. Since I majored in English Education, I just try and find a nice harmony between making the dentition look natural but slightly more defined. Match the buccal corridor, match ridges, keep contacts broad but light, minimize excursive movement obstacles, get honest feedback from the technicians or clients working from your designs, it all just becomes muscle memory.

Thankyou

 

[filippos]

Thankyou so much GURU ji (sir) for your valuable time and advice!!

Haha anytime. Please give me your email if you want, I will gift you a book, you may find it helpful

 

[SVK]

thanks alot guruji
[email protected]
Can I find you on Instagram!!

Haha anytime. Please give me your email if you want, I will gift you a book, you may find it helpful

 

[filippos]

thanks alot guruji
[email protected]
Can I find you on Instagram!!

yeah sure, just type my name filippos filippidis and you'll find me.

I send you 2 books, hope they help you!

its Kataoka's and Nishimura's book, nature's morphology. If anyone else want it just pm me and i will send it to you

 

[SVK]

Found it guruji I have requested and did DM

yeah sure, just type my name filippos filippidis and you'll find me.

I send you 2 books, hope they help you!

its Kataoka's and Nishimura's book, nature's morphology. If anyone else want it just pm me and i will send it to you