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Nobel Nacera on 3shape Design Nightmares
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<blockquote data-quote="Marcin K" data-source="post: 343937" data-attributes="member: 18437"><p>Does anyone have experience or tip and trick when designing Nobel zirconia products on 3shape? Recently we have been trying the Nobels Nacera All on 4 product that is direct to interface and ogh god are nobel's validation steps a nightmare. This is one of the reason we decided to stop doing Nobel ASC zirconia back in the day since something about Nobels DME just does not play nice with 3shape. I know some will say contact nobel but honestly i'm sick of getting some rep who keeps fishing for excuses and blaming 3shape for these issues.</p><p></p><p>I don't have these issues with DESS parts since they always work, especially with the DME they have released in the past year. I would try to mess with the manufacturing and validation setting but everything is locked so no luck there. My previous workflow used to have me design my all on 4 direct to interface on multiunit. We would then print and send to the dr a temporary to establish aesthetics and make sure occlusion is correct. Once all changes were made and or finalized I would modify the order from direct to interface to a Ti base and just go through the design steps while keeping my original design. This new process requires me to copy and append approved design and setup for nacera. I don't mind the added step of redesigning since this would typically only take maybe an hour at most, but since Introducing nobel, redesigning these cases can take a whole day for me to just trouble shoot why each case may not "validate".</p><p></p><p>Any help from those experienced with designing stuff for Nobel's manufactured products would be great.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marcin K, post: 343937, member: 18437"] Does anyone have experience or tip and trick when designing Nobel zirconia products on 3shape? Recently we have been trying the Nobels Nacera All on 4 product that is direct to interface and ogh god are nobel's validation steps a nightmare. This is one of the reason we decided to stop doing Nobel ASC zirconia back in the day since something about Nobels DME just does not play nice with 3shape. I know some will say contact nobel but honestly i'm sick of getting some rep who keeps fishing for excuses and blaming 3shape for these issues. I don't have these issues with DESS parts since they always work, especially with the DME they have released in the past year. I would try to mess with the manufacturing and validation setting but everything is locked so no luck there. My previous workflow used to have me design my all on 4 direct to interface on multiunit. We would then print and send to the dr a temporary to establish aesthetics and make sure occlusion is correct. Once all changes were made and or finalized I would modify the order from direct to interface to a Ti base and just go through the design steps while keeping my original design. This new process requires me to copy and append approved design and setup for nacera. I don't mind the added step of redesigning since this would typically only take maybe an hour at most, but since Introducing nobel, redesigning these cases can take a whole day for me to just trouble shoot why each case may not "validate". Any help from those experienced with designing stuff for Nobel's manufactured products would be great. [/QUOTE]
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