Model free workflow

[sidesh0wb0b]

Soooooooo, who has gone (mostly) model free?

what system are you using and do you like it?

are you milling or outsourcing after designing?

and most importantly HOW MUCH TIME HAS IT SAVED YOU?

 

[zero_zero]

We do, singles to 3 unit bridges...I am not confident making anything larger Mix of IO scans and triple tray scans (given that the triple tray is good, otherwise we'll make a model). Started doing it by impression scanning and fitting it the model...after a few cases we were able to dial in the settings and get over the uncertainty of finishing a crown w/o models (that's the harder part, lol).

 

[sidesh0wb0b]

We do, singles to 3 unit bridges...I am not confident making anything larger Mix of IO scans and triple tray scans (given that the triple tray is good, otherwise we'll make a model). Started doing it by impression scanning and fitting it the model...after a few cases we were able to dial in the settings and get over the uncertainty of finishing a crown w/o models (that's the harder part, lol).

ok, all good info!
what scanner/mill are you using?

 

[zero_zero]

ok, all good info!
what scanner/mill are you using?

medit/roland

 

[2thm8kr]

I have been model less for all single crowns from IO scans for at least two years. I did the same as zero in the beginning to dial in my settings. Longest span model less is four unit bridge with two pontics.
Working on an implant case now, 4 units cement retained from IO scan of scan markers.

 

[sidesh0wb0b]

I have been model less for all single crowns from IO scans for at least two years. I did the same as zero in the beginning to dial in my settings. Longest span model less is four unit bridge with two pontics.
Working on an implant case now, 4 units cement retained from IO scan of scan markers.

now thats fantastic!!!
time savings?

 

[sidesh0wb0b]

medit/roland

awesome, which roland mill, dwx50?

 

[zero_zero]

awesome, which roland mill, dwx50?

yes

 

[rkm rdt]

To heck with making the crown too,

why not send them an empty box with a bill inside?

 

[sidesh0wb0b]

To heck with making the crown too,

why not send them an empty box with a bill inside?

if they pay, i would love it

 

[2thm8kr]

now thats fantastic!!!
time savings?

Think of doing almost zero models no pinning, sawing, waiting for setting, etc. Time to do other stuff like goofing around here.
I also don't saw models for any large cases I do. I just trim the solid and scan it.

 

[rkm rdt]

I do mostly cutbacks and microlayering.
Those other guys will be replaced by robots soon.

 

[sidesh0wb0b]

I do mostly cutbacks and microlayering.
Those other guys will be replaced by robots soon.

microlayering? you mean layering. doesnt matter

I do mostly cutbacks and microlayering.
Those other guys will be replaced by robots soon.

layering is layering and it too is going by the wayside

 

[rkm rdt]

not for my anteriors,never will.

 

[sidesh0wb0b]

not for my anteriors,never will.

lol i hear you!

 

[rkm rdt]

There is no way a FCZ would have matched the pt I just saw.

 

[2thm8kr]

There is no way a FCZ would have matched the pt I just saw.

Gold central?

 

[rkm rdt]

Bluer that OE1 ,had to use the blue from my lustre paste straight up...no chaser!

 

[sidesh0wb0b]

Bluer that OE1 ,had to use the blue from my lustre paste straight up...no chaser!

just had a similar one. brighter than 0M3 but not 0M2, loads of blue trans on the incisal and overall trans throughout.
i mixed clear with my porcelains. still might not be trans enough! lol

 

[RJS8669]

Just did a 3-unit implant temp on 3 variobases. 3Shape/Wieland. Received the scan at 2:30pm. Delivered at 5pm. Slipped in with no adjustment. Pretty cool...