Implant parts

[Smilemaker1234]

Does anyone use lab analogs that are not by the manufacturer?

 

[Car 54]

Yes, Glidewell's.

 

[JMN]

Does anyone use lab analogs that are not by the manufacturer?

Oh yes.

 

[Car 54]

One of our Sponsors here, @DESS-USA has a wide variety of analogs: https://www.dess-usa.com/analogs/

 

[user name]

No. I only use OEM parts, and thats why my regional reps suggest to Drs they use me. Its worked in my favor.

 

[Car 54]

Analogs, I have no problem with, they're just positing the implant in space, in the cast.
I only use the OME abutments and screws, to leave myself "blameless" in case anything should happen in vivo.

My account needed a BioHorizons replacement screw yesterday, and it was nice to be able to deliver the 2 different screw
options in the BioHorizons sealed pouches. She did leave a note on a case this morning of where do I get my screws, this is
where I can make my lab look good, and help them have peace of mind in that we're using the real mcCoys.

 

[JMN]

If anything goes wacky, it'll be blamed on the analog being imprecise and allowing too much rotation/overrotation in the model.

 

[Car 54]

Disagree, if anything, a impression transfer that is wobbly, loose in the impression.
I have yet to have a wobbly analog or rotate in a stone cast.

 

[JMN]

Disagree, if anything, a impression transfer that is wobbly, loose in the impression.
I have yet to have a wobbly analog in a stone cast.

Oh, yes. Total agreement. I meant the blame, not the fault.

 

[Car 54]

I'd be more concerned with using a 3rd parties non color coded analogs and use the wrong size.

 

[user name]

Disagree, if anything, a impression transfer that is wobbly, loose in the impression.
I have yet to have a wobbly analog or rotate in a stone cast.

I used some from Zahn once. Most were very good, but one particular didnt seat perfect on the impression transfer. I sectioned a vertical wedge out to see what was wrong. Thats when I went back to OEM.

 

[Car 54]

One more post

My account who needed the screw, only wants me to use B.H. analogs.
Maybe it can also make a difference if you're doing closed tray or open tray. All mine are closed tray,
so I have the impression transfer in hand to verify the fit of the Glidewell analog to the transfer.
So far after about 5 years of using their analogs, I have yet to see one that didn't seat perfectly, Zahn on the other hand,
I can maybe see why they may have not been the most consistent, as you found out.

 

[user name]

Im just guessing...zahn gets them from Alibaba?

 

[JMN]

Im just guessing...zahn gets them from Alibaba?

Other way around.

 

[Car 54]

Im just guessing...zahn gets them from Alibaba?

Yep, I'm guessing someone like that, too

 

[CatamountRob]

When I get a case my accounts include the analogs, they’re always OEM.

 

[Car 54]

They care, and you save the cost of buying the analogs, and they save the cost of your 250% mark up

 

[JMN]

When I get a case my accounts include the analogs, they’re always OEM.

Had one that sent cast-to/UCLA with every case.

 

[CatamountRob]

How difficult is it for them to order the analogs when they order transfers? It’s not like there are dozens to choose from.

 

[Car 54]

Had one that sent cast-to/UCLA with every case.

The good part of that is they saved you the cost of buying the pricey UCLAs, the bad part is all of the time and labor in doing those.
Thank goodness for CAD, and in my case sending it out for milling.