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Lab talk, the good, the bad, and the ugly
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Imes or Vhf?
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<blockquote data-quote="BobCDT" data-source="post: 146371" data-attributes="member: 3119"><p>I had written a response last night and decided not to post it. then saw more posts this AM and decided to to provide my point of view. Before I do so i will disclose the following. Yes I sell mills. A lot of them. Please let me assure you my feeling here are not because I'm interested in selling you a mill. When posting I am always trying to share with an open mind. At CAP we really want what is best for the lab that we are speaking with. If we don't have the right solution we tell them. If CAD CAM is not right for them we tell them. That said, here we go.</p><p>Sorry, I don't think limiting yourself to even six material manufacturers is wise. Things are changing so fast. There are several dozen companies working on new materials. In fact, we are testing a super translucent 600MPa zirconia material now. Yes, it's a 98mm disk. What happens when one of these new material makes a huge splash in the market and they have only a 98mm form factor? If your mill holds a "D" shaped disc, your out! To me, thats closed. Why buy a mill that knowing, this could happen? We don't know what we don't know. What we do know, it's extremely likely that any new material form factor will either be a small block on a mandrill or a 98mm disc.</p><p>I really don't know too much about the AG mill. But, I know AG make great stuff. So i will go under teh assumption and agree with those that have it that is works very well. The company is full of great minds and they have brought some awesome products to the lab market. I do know there are many mills that mill zirconia very very well, are economical and facilitate a standard 98mm discs. From my perspective (I know I'm not always right) buying a mill for milling dental zirconia should include a fixture that holds a 98mm disc. Anything else and one could easily end up with buyers remorse.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BobCDT, post: 146371, member: 3119"] I had written a response last night and decided not to post it. then saw more posts this AM and decided to to provide my point of view. Before I do so i will disclose the following. Yes I sell mills. A lot of them. Please let me assure you my feeling here are not because I'm interested in selling you a mill. When posting I am always trying to share with an open mind. At CAP we really want what is best for the lab that we are speaking with. If we don't have the right solution we tell them. If CAD CAM is not right for them we tell them. That said, here we go. Sorry, I don't think limiting yourself to even six material manufacturers is wise. Things are changing so fast. There are several dozen companies working on new materials. In fact, we are testing a super translucent 600MPa zirconia material now. Yes, it's a 98mm disk. What happens when one of these new material makes a huge splash in the market and they have only a 98mm form factor? If your mill holds a "D" shaped disc, your out! To me, thats closed. Why buy a mill that knowing, this could happen? We don't know what we don't know. What we do know, it's extremely likely that any new material form factor will either be a small block on a mandrill or a 98mm disc. I really don't know too much about the AG mill. But, I know AG make great stuff. So i will go under teh assumption and agree with those that have it that is works very well. The company is full of great minds and they have brought some awesome products to the lab market. I do know there are many mills that mill zirconia very very well, are economical and facilitate a standard 98mm discs. From my perspective (I know I'm not always right) buying a mill for milling dental zirconia should include a fixture that holds a 98mm disc. Anything else and one could easily end up with buyers remorse. [/QUOTE]
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