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@ CHL. Thanks for responding. If I understand, the 3rd question correctly; if not I stand corrected. The DIM has the analogs already integrated... No? If yes, then you'll be rescanning, And if so, then you can use whatever scanbodies (EOS) extraoral. that will provide the desired workflow and result. No need to use identical IOS scanbodies ad+ this point....No?
@ Affinity and 2th..... I hope youré not refering to me....thanks for the compliment...
Just to clear up the air...pim intended....
I'm sem olde fart..... Stale too! If you dont believe me ....stand close....
Im Just being contra, so to speak. The OP hasn't been back. That's why i responded that way to his post. He sounded ignorant but very demanding..... Anyways our guys stepped in an shared valuable insight..... Now Im milking it fwiw.... Didn't want it to go to waste.
Thanks CHL and Sevan P....!!! Props.
So you have all these companies that make scan bodies IO and desktop. OE companies like Nobel Biocare, Straumann, 3i, M.I.S., Implant Direct, Zimmer Bio Horizon and a few others. 3rd party companies like Tru Abutment, Glidewell, Dess, NT Trading, ELOS etc. Each have their own personal library designed to work with their scan bodies and their scan bodies only. Unless you tweak and crate your own library (hybrid) you must use its dedicated library. Certain companies have IO scan bodes like Nobel (Elos),they have a separate library for IO scan bodies, it is the same as the desktop library but the only thing different is the scan body within the library. You must select the IO library when setting up the trios, itero or any other IO scan order in 3shape.
Not all libraries are able to print implant models. Nobel, Dess, NT Trading, Straumann and soon M.I.S. all have DIM (Digital Implant Model) analog, which is different then the tradition implant replica used for stone casts. But all are ready for custom Ti abutment that have to be sent to the needed milling center to be produced, Nobel library designs go to Nobel, Straumann to Straumann and so on. You can not design on NT trading and have MIS or Implant direct mill it for you.
NOW, the hybrid Zr abutment you simply need to order the right part from the library's mfg, like Argen use the NT Trading library so they sell NT trading Ti bases and DIM analogs and print the implant models as well. MIS sells their own Ti bases and same with Glidewell. You can NOT use Glidewells Ti base on a abutment designed in Implant direct or Straumanns library.
All these companies will make other platforms as well. Nobel has a third party library that uses the same style IO and desktop marks (Elos) as for their platforms and they sell the needed ti bases. Keep in mind not all companies have non engaging ti bases and very few companies allow bars to be made with their libraries. Specially in house milling of Ti abutments just got harder Cause no one can sell you a ti blank to mill unless the lab is now 510K cleared or else the seller gets in trouble now.
I personally have scan markers from the following:
Glidewell
Implant Direct
MIS
Tru Abutment
NT Trading
Nobel Biocare
Straumann
Atlantis
Bio Horizon
3i
My little scan body storage kit.
View attachment 25465
3Shape has introduce a universal marker kit and so far a lot of big names are on board, this would make it so you buy one kit and all the libraries use the same scan bodies but still you send to Nobel or Straumann for manufacturing of the abutments, or in house and use the correct ti bases. But this will most likely be a while till complete and ready to roll out.
PM me and i will give you my cell call and i can explain even in depth how it all works.
Sorry for the longest post ever............................................
ThanSo you have all these companies that make scan bodies IO and desktop. OE companies like Nobel Biocare, Straumann, 3i, M.I.S., Implant Direct, Zimmer Bio Horizon and a few others. 3rd party companies like Tru Abutment, Glidewell, Dess, NT Trading, ELOS etc. Each have their own personal library designed to work with their scan bodies and their scan bodies only. Unless you tweak and crate your own library (hybrid) you must use its dedicated library. Certain companies have IO scan bodes like Nobel (Elos),they have a separate library for IO scan bodies, it is the same as the desktop library but the only thing different is the scan body within the library. You must select the IO library when setting up the trios, itero or any other IO scan order in 3shape.
Not all libraries are able to print implant models. Nobel, Dess, NT Trading, Straumann and soon M.I.S. all have DIM (Digital Implant Model) analog, which is different then the tradition implant replica used for stone casts. But all are ready for custom Ti abutment that have to be sent to the needed milling center to be produced, Nobel library designs go to Nobel, Straumann to Straumann and so on. You can not design on NT trading and have MIS or Implant direct mill it for you.
NOW, the hybrid Zr abutment you simply need to order the right part from the library's mfg, like Argen use the NT Trading library so they sell NT trading Ti bases and DIM analogs and print the implant models as well. MIS sells their own Ti bases and same with Glidewell. You can NOT use Glidewells Ti base on a abutment designed in Implant direct or Straumanns library.
All these companies will make other platforms as well. Nobel has a third party library that uses the same style IO and desktop marks (Elos) as for their platforms and they sell the needed ti bases. Keep in mind not all companies have non engaging ti bases and very few companies allow bars to be made with their libraries. Specially in house milling of Ti abutments just got harder Cause no one can sell you a ti blank to mill unless the lab is now 510K cleared or else the seller gets in trouble now.
I personally have scan markers from the following:
Glidewell
Implant Direct
MIS
Tru Abutment
NT Trading
Nobel Biocare
Straumann
Atlantis
Bio Horizon
3i
My little scan body storage kit.
View attachment 25465
3Shape has introduce a universal marker kit and so far a lot of big names are on board, this would make it so you buy one kit and all the libraries use the same scan bodies but still you send to Nobel or Straumann for manufacturing of the abutments, or in house and use the correct ti bases. But this will most likely be a while till complete and ready to roll out.
PM me and i will give you my cell call and i can explain even in depth how it all works.
Sorry for the longest post ever............................................