Hello friends, What company can help making zirconium abutment on titanium platform?

[Manny]

I have in front of me two cases, Astra parts. One is AQUA, and the doctor wants hybrid, to show zirconia but the screw to be torqued to a metal part. Atlantis only do the all way zirconia which she had problems breaking in the past. The competitor lab Doctor was using before me was able to do this kind of hybrid that Atlantis won't do. I can't go ask them, they were using some third party lab. can anybody help me with this information?
In my frustration I was thinking to order a very thin abutment from Atlantis and make a zirconia coping on top that I would glue, and after that my actual final emax restoration.

 

[AnAppleaDay]

Nobel Biocare has a nice solution for Astra (not EV, only the Yellow, Aqua, Lilac).
They can mill a Zirconia structure with a metal adapter (needs to be cemented).
The fit is very good and the price is not bad.

You can scan and send via 3Shape or send to them for scan and design. Your local Nobel rep can tell you more.

 

[Manny]

Nobel Biocare has a nice solution for Astra (not EV, only the Yellow, Aqua, Lilac).
They can mill a Zirconia structure with a metal adapter (needs to be cemented).
The fit is very good and the price is not bad.

You can scan and send via 3Shape or send to them for scan and design. Your local Nobel rep can tell you more.

Thank you

 

[PRO ARTS DL]

A lot of milling centers will be able to mill this for you.

Tru Abutment, Argen, etc.

 

[Manny]

Nobel Biocare has a nice solution for Astra (not EV, only the Yellow, Aqua, Lilac).
They can mill a Zirconia structure with a metal adapter (needs to be cemented).
The fit is very good and the price is not bad.

You can scan and send via 3Shape or send to them for scan and design. Your local Nobel rep can tell you more.

Just called them and they said they only do titanium abutment for Astra parts,not the way you mentioned, I explained it was Aqua. It looks like not all technical reps are the same...

 

[Manny]

A lot of milling centers will be able to mill this for you.

Tru Abutment, Argen, etc.

Tru Abutment worked from the start, very good customer service, set up the account and finger crossed the case will come out good. Thanks

 

[grantoz]

i must be missing something why not just just get a ti abutment from astra then trim which ever way you like and then glue the zi abutment on top.

 

[user name]

i must be missing something why not just just get a ti abutment from astra then trim which ever way you like and then glue the zi abutment on top.

That's the way I do them every time.

 

[Manny]

i must be missing something why not just just get a ti abutment from astra then trim which ever way you like and then glue the zi abutment on top.

So am I understanding right: I do order the titanium abutment from them in a super thin shape or I shape it and then make a zirconia coping, I glue it at my lab and then make the final restoration (emax crown)... it is a good idea but we pay a pricey charge to Astra on top zirconia coping and emax cost... I’m not worried about doctor’s final charge, I was looking for a more direct less time and yes cheaper for us way to do it. A zirconia abutment milled on top of a titanium base. It shouldn’t be so hard for implant companies to make it.

 

[user name]

So am I understanding right: I do order the titanium abutment from them in a super thin shape or I shape it and then make a zirconia coping, I glue it at my lab and then make the final restoration (emax crown)... it is a good idea but we pay a pricey charge to Astra on top zirconia coping and emax cost... I’m not worried about doctor’s final charge, I was looking for a more direct less time and yes cheaper for us way to do it. A zirconia abutment milled on top of a titanium base. It shouldn’t be so hard for implant companies to make it.

If you make it, you get ideal contours, and you can stain and glaze the exposed part emerging from the tissue to match the final restoration. Much nicer.

 

[Manny]

If you make it, you get ideal contours, and you can stain and glaze the exposed part emerging from the tissue to match the final restoration. Much nicer.

It makes sense, I will do it for the next case, in this research endeavor I found out that companies other than Astra can make you a quality titanium abutment at half price, which is something new to me, it’s a learning process for me here on implants and I thank everyone for any kind response.

 

[grantoz]

manny i think you need to do a bit more research as you cant use super glue in the mouth it has cyanide in it.

 

[grantoz]

cute dog by the way!

 

[user name]

manny i think you need to do a bit more research as you cant use super glue in the mouth it has cyanide in it.

What did I miss? Where did he say he'd use super glue?

Im reasonably sure it doesn't have cyanide in it, but I could be wrong. I know some super glues are used for medical applications. Methyl and ethyl variants are normal super glue; butyl and octyl variants are the medical ones.

I actually...by accident, super glued my finger to my nose last week while doing model work, so...

 

[Manny]

manny i think you need to do a bit more research as you cant use super glue in the mouth it has cyanide in it.

I called “the glue” short for cement I use which right now is Multilink Automix.
As for the dog he’s a sweet puppy and I challenge you to name the breed.

 

[Manny]

cute dog by the way!

Thanks, tell me the breed name.

 

[Manny]

I called “the glue” short for cement I use which right now is Multilink Automix.
As for the dog he’s a sweet puppy and I challenge you to name the breed.

What did I miss? Where did he say he'd use super glue?

Im reasonably sure it doesn't have cyanide in it, but I could be wrong. I know some super glues are used for medical applications. Methyl and ethyl variants are normal super glue; butyl and octyl variants are the medical ones.

I actually...by accident, super glued my finger to my nose last week while doing model work, so...

No superglue used on implants or anything going in the mouth, ever. Hopefully it was a joke by grantoz and I’ll take it that way.

 

[grantoz]

terrier i dont know

 

[Manny]

terrier i dont know

The breed name is “Coton de Tulear”, I know it’s off topic but I can’t help it, he enriched our life and emptied my pocket but it is really worth it, a special friend...

 

[grantoz]

dogs are never off topic my mutt is a big part of our lives too