Glaze wearing off Emax and Empress

[Androo101]

Do glazes on monolithic Emax wear off commonly over a short period? I know Empress has some issues because the stains are soluble. Does anyone know if Emax Press and/or CAD experience the glaze coming off after a short period or only a few years of being in mouth?

What are the most common reasons for glaze to wear off? Hygienist polishing, poor temperature fusing initially in the lab or acidity eroding the glaze?

I've read on here PFMs hold their glaze better than Emax, however there are many many cases out there of PFMs losing their glaze (and thus looking light and mostly awful). So that concerns me!

Thank you.

I'm a noob! Hi

 

[doug]

We use the same glaze on all of our cases, MIYO. Can't say I've had any issues referred back to us, but if the doc adjusts anything and doesn't return it for a glase or even a good polishing...

 

[sugedap]

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[Car 54]

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@Travis

 

[PrecisionDental]

Having worked for dental ceramic mfg's previously, I can tell you that in the IFU's it is recommended that separate applications of stain and glaze be carried out. Many technicians have learned to stain and glaze simultaneously, but the results generally are not as good as when carried out separately. Mixing the stain in with the glaze doesn't encapsulate the stain and therefore makes the restoration more susceptible to polishing the stain/glaze off as the stain may be closer to the surface. Additionally, the medium used by the hygienist may be a factor as well.. just my experience. Whenever possible, stain/characterize the restoration at a lower temp to fix the stains in place and then carry out at least one glaze bake to ensure that the stains are encapsulated within the glaze layer, thus providing greater longevity.

 

[JKraver]

We use the same glaze on all of our cases, MIYO. Can't say I've had any issues referred back to us, but if the doc adjusts anything and doesn't return it for a glase or even a good polishing...

Pretty much miyo or nothing these days when it comes to stain and glaze. It blows ivocolor out of the water IMO.

 

[MarkDT]

Do glazes on monolithic Emax wear off commonly over a short period? I know Empress has some issues because the stains are soluble. Does anyone know if Emax Press and/or CAD experience the glaze coming off after a short period or only a few years of being in mouth?

What are the most common reasons for glaze to wear off? Hygienist polishing, poor temperature fusing initially in the lab or acidity eroding the glaze?

I've read on here PFMs hold their glaze better than Emax, however there are many many cases out there of PFMs losing their glaze (and thus looking light and mostly awful). So that concerns me!

Thank you.

I'm a noob! Hi

We never had a problem with glaze wearing off of monolithic EMAX, however as far as PFM I always did a multi porcelain layer porcelain build and finished up with a natural glaze when ever possible. Natural glazes are less porous and hold up far better than external glazes. After the natural glaze I would go over it with a diamond paste it worked out great.

 

[rkm rdt]

I’m in the twilight of my career so I’m gonna mix my stain with my glaze.

 

[MarkDT]

I’m in the twilight of my career so I’m gonna mix my stain with my glaze.

Nothing wrong with that approach I do not blame you obviously your more of an old school tech and that is what I am. In fact I am sort of getting sucked back in and am kicking and screaming. the company named after a tree is the only option I have if I want to not go broke driving to or from work

 

[rkm rdt]

Nothing wrong with that approach I do not blame you obviously your more of an old school tech and that is what I am. In fact I am sort of getting sucked back in and am kicking and screaming. the company named after a tree is the only option I have if I want to not go broke driving to or from work

I’m actually all in digitally. I don’t old school anymore.

 

[MarkDT]

To show you how bad i do not want to work for the Tree company (A large dental office named after a tree) I will leave it at that I have resumes everywhere else known to man.... Digital is where it is all going anyhow I feel like a dinosaur