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Exocad crown occlusal problems with intra oral scans (Will mail top shelf Scotch if you can help me)
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<blockquote data-quote="CoolHandLuke" data-source="post: 334347" data-attributes="member: 4850"><p>Matt, it may help you to make models first, and scan them the way they hand articulate, i suspect if you are unable to save the new relationship that this may be your only recourse. mention to your doctors to scan more data - half arches were invented to save impression material, theres no excuse for poor bites with digital scans and half arches make alignment less accurate.</p><p></p><p>to directly address your concerns, you are right, these intrusions are NOT accurate, and the software was not designed to let you get away with a bad bite. it always lets you know that in fact the articulation of the scans IS wrong, because it shows intrusions. 3shape doesnt show any of this unless you specifically look for it, letting you go through life dead eyed and lazy.</p><p></p><p>you are supposed to be able to see and account for this.</p><p></p><p>the fact that you are having such trouble speaks to the quality of your exocad training, moreover speaks to the training given to your docs that they send them no matter what the screen shows. a poor scan forces you to start in poor conditions, just like a poor impression, and i thought the name of the game of digital was MORE accuracy not MORE lazyness.</p><p></p><p>your exocad should also come with about 36 different Sample cases for you to use to play with the different tools. i suggest you to play with some of their implant/bridge cases to get a feel for re-articulation because truly some of them are scanned wrong on purpose to give you this opportunity. case ending in -024 should be an anterior implant case with a wrong bite. try playing with this, the adjusting of antagonist is fairly easy and straightforward and should give you a feel for digital hand articulation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CoolHandLuke, post: 334347, member: 4850"] Matt, it may help you to make models first, and scan them the way they hand articulate, i suspect if you are unable to save the new relationship that this may be your only recourse. mention to your doctors to scan more data - half arches were invented to save impression material, theres no excuse for poor bites with digital scans and half arches make alignment less accurate. to directly address your concerns, you are right, these intrusions are NOT accurate, and the software was not designed to let you get away with a bad bite. it always lets you know that in fact the articulation of the scans IS wrong, because it shows intrusions. 3shape doesnt show any of this unless you specifically look for it, letting you go through life dead eyed and lazy. you are supposed to be able to see and account for this. the fact that you are having such trouble speaks to the quality of your exocad training, moreover speaks to the training given to your docs that they send them no matter what the screen shows. a poor scan forces you to start in poor conditions, just like a poor impression, and i thought the name of the game of digital was MORE accuracy not MORE lazyness. your exocad should also come with about 36 different Sample cases for you to use to play with the different tools. i suggest you to play with some of their implant/bridge cases to get a feel for re-articulation because truly some of them are scanned wrong on purpose to give you this opportunity. case ending in -024 should be an anterior implant case with a wrong bite. try playing with this, the adjusting of antagonist is fairly easy and straightforward and should give you a feel for digital hand articulation. [/QUOTE]
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