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Tricked my software into making me a schweet eight unit grill.
Printed it a few different ways from .45mm to .65mm in some places.

Added "virtual" cement spacer (around 70 microns I think)

Cast with High Noble gold and also another one with high palladim/gold.

Fits amazing and does not fall out. I can't feel the margin at gums.

Of course it's not cemented.
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Sorry, I'm too lazy to re-size.
I'm lucky and was born with a tooth that looks like a piece of corn in middle of mandibular. It's healthy and bleaching does not help. My dad taught Dentistry and won't let me crown it or veneer it.

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That is crazy. You made that for yourself? So are you going to market these?

Lets see what white gold would look like.

Figure out a way to incorporate some kind of led s into the centrals.
 
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Total weight of gold is 2.47dwt.

It fits really well, I'm surprised.

We are gathering up shapes to digitize and add to the grills.

Some gangsters like Dollar signs, Ice (rocks),Initials, etc...

Ever seen Paul Walls web site??


Those things look stupid.

GRILLS BY PAUL WALL

This guy makes millions on silly grillz!

I need some of that action going on.

L.E.D.s?? I was thinking bluetooth handfree headset transmitting voice thru your grill and into teeth/head. Any thoughts?
 
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Thats funny, a peice of corn. Its not hardly noticable.

That is really amazing, what a job to polish it esp with all those margins.
So can I send you my models and you can print me venners to press?

Is your Dad still practicing? Mine is 73 and still cutting preps in Florida but he has his practice up for sale now. Not a good time to sell.

I dont know whether to love the technology or to hate it.
 
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Ive never heard of Raul Wall before. Is he a lab tech?
 
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Ive never heard of Raul Wall before. Is he a lab tech?

Yup, Paul/Raul Wall is/was Lab Tech turned into Rapper.

I personally hate most rap music, and never heard this guy. My6 employees told me bbout it.

He made it BIG time!

We could print anything you dream up as long as it fits into a 8x8x8" cube.

Dad still is in practice with my little brother. Dad is 70 and works everyday. He taught C&B at MCV in VA.

Scott

I've lost sleep over the possibilities of scanning and reverse engineering or ?? with printer/milling/CAD stuff. Pretty exciting substitution for looking at porn all day.
 
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Have you printed any multiple unit venners? If I need to adjust or move the contacts can I grind or carve the wax or do I adjust it after I press.

I hate waxing venners it is so time consuming. Also long span bridges, you never know if you will need to solder or not, till I fit it.

If I want to change the pontic design on a br. I know I can add on but how fragile are to they to remove and material?
Are they strong enough to try on the model, will they warp or will they just break instead. And if I break a printed frame can I superglue it back together?

Thanks, Al
 
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I never realized there was so much money in those things. If you can do a better job than that guy go for it. Interesting niche.
 
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Printer is amazing. My grill is eight veneers of gold @ .45mm
I have made many now, for employees and family.
Imagine a Gold coping, now take off three axial walls, then multiply by eight.
You'd get around 2.7dwt, or at least that's what I got..


You wouldn/t believe this, but I have printed a coping 20microns thick!
I'm serious. It looks like a soap bubble. We broke it trying to get it into a box.

It's worthless for Dentistry, but I just wanted to see if printer would do that.

I have called around the East Coast. Seems some lab owners bought this machine not knowing much about the technology or computers, and the lab considered it a failure. I told them to never unplug it or turn off. Do not place near cold window, and keep machine hot. Those labs did none of that, and machine broke. These things have a very bad reputation for breaking. And the company tried to get a new start by calling the printers a new name. Old name was InVision, new name is ProJet. Same machine inside after the covers are off. I have taken mine apart three times. We have run about 100 prints and I guess eight had problems. The whole job was finished and there were "rows" of teeth that mis-printed. "White" support wax was too cold or print head got clogged. I purged the material backward manually, and cleaned everything.
I believe Glidewell bought one a few years back, and they gave up too soon, and focused on milling of wax. I tried that first and hated it.

I love mine! I'm shopping for another as a backup/parts.
More and more labs will get some sort of software to design something that we could print. Either a RPD framework, or metal, or pressable patterns.

For Dentistry, 3D Systems wants us to buy a ProJet DP. It's around $90k and then you need a scanner and software, materials to print with, and you need to come up with a post processing station. A Year service agreement is around $11,000/year or as I see it....$50/day! Ouch! I think I'll pass on that one and figure it out myself.

I bought a dual french-fry warming light, and a food warmer (serving warmer for big meals) Food Warmer is BIG metal box, water bath inside, and three shallow sections for warming food with lids. Keeps temps under boiling with large knob. Great temp control around the 160-200f range. Fry pan too hot.

I have the light right above the warmer. First section, I have Parafin wax, next section is corn oil, next section is soapy water. We use strainers.
All this is on top of large cooking sheets to keep the mess contained.

We can post-process very fast with minimal human work. 150 copings can take a few minutes to clean up.

I have two space heaters set-up by wax-printer to keep warm at night, because I had to place by window.

We are getting around 1000 copings for each $250 tube of material.
I'm using a non-Dental material, that is the exact same, but different color (blue, not green) that material is half the cost. If you soak either in oil overnight, they turn white. Soak in soap overnight, and both turn clear.
We have tried to break down the printed material with M.E.K., Acatone, Monomer, Alchohol, cyanoacrylate solvent, etc.....none had effect. Very durable material!

The magazine "Medical Design and Technology" shows all the little pieces that go into a big medical machine, and where to order. I get my own motors, encoders, guide rails, hall-effect switches, heating elements, thermocouples direct from manufacture. Fok the Dental supply people who rip us off 10x over.
 
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Have you printed any multiple unit venners? If I need to adjust or move the contacts can I grind or carve the wax or do I adjust it after I press.

I hate waxing venners it is so time consuming. Also long span bridges, you never know if you will need to solder or not, till I fit it.

If I want to change the pontic design on a br. I know I can add on but how fragile are to they to remove and material?
Are they strong enough to try on the model, will they warp or will they just break instead. And if I break a printed frame can I superglue it back together?

Thanks, Al

Think plastic. Very strong. Rubber wheel reduces easy. Add wax if needed.
No carving with regular waxing instruments.

Printing veneers would be super easy. You could try in mouth or play with on model with no fear of breaking.

Long span bridges are the BOMB! We just finished a case with four implants on each arch......BIG framework for both replacing all teeth, Fit like magic!

Zero (0) grinding on inside of abutments to get it to fit. No second guessing, because the computer already removed the undercuts in those stupid paralleled-wall implant abutments.
Case was scanned using a solid model! No waxer could have sealed the margins on this uncut model, or waxed the pontics a perfect .70mm off the ridge.

This is progress! I have everyone in my lab now waxing like a pro.
Machine is filling up fast. We have been casually advertizing this past month of Jan. and all seems OK so far. (wait till we have a major breakdown....I'l be cursing this machine to hell and back)
 
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This sounds pretty amazing (as long as it keeps running smooth)! You've got me scratching my head about some bigger cases that are coming up in the future. Can we send stuff to you? What info is needed? What might be the range on the cost?

The implant case you mentioned... are you printing to abutments or the implant analogs themselves? Seems you might be able to give Atlantis a run for their money!
 
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Yeah, I don't want legal problems.
3M waited 3 years for FDA approval for their Zirconia abutments, (we make them)

I don't want to get sued for copying a design, but I could do it.

We are now rocking and rolling doing copings for labs.
I'd be glad to give it my best for any of you out there.

Scott
 

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