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It is still too early for me to give my review. Sometimes it takes longer for a lab to get "calibrated" to what a doctor expects. I don't think any lab ever is going to meet my unreasonable expectations (hehehe),but it's the ones that fight, scratch and claw to get there that I want to work with. Dandy seems to be trying VERY hard to get there when I say I have a problem, but I have only completed 3-4 cases with them in a months time. The problem is, what happens when I don't write eight page prescriptions with specific and detailed instructions, materials, diagnostic photos... what about the "average" first molar zirc crown. What kind of quality am I going to get when I "go through the motions" a little bit.

But as for a business model, it's pretty awesome. Everything you do is run through their online portal. "Don't have a good computer in your office with a reliable way to get on the online portal???, great!, here's this $2-3000 dollar screamer of a laptop included with the scanner."

The main problem I foresee is that they obviously are going after the Glubwell $99 market. For a lot of the dentists in high patient flow/insurance/production oriented practices, this is PERFECT. For me, I would like for some of the great technicians that do truly superior work on here to offer to subcontract with them and charge MORE than your normal fee, tell them this, and tell them to tell the dentist this. The convenience of the portal keeping all photos and scans with the case would make it well worth it. There should be an option to do a high-end boutique crown that the dang technician is going to get PAID enough to take their time with it and go above and beyond.

I once had a ceramist offer to send me a colored pencil rendition with every crown of what porcelain and stain he used to "build" his beautiful work. The lab that he worked for got bought out and that lab got bought out again and is now a part of NDX. I don't know where he ended up.

With the digital work flow, a similar level of "sharing" your work with the other party (dentist to lab AND lab to dentist) is possible. Why don't they "put the technician in the room with the patient" digitally, all the tools are there to do it.

I want Dandy to be able to do both the Glubwell 99 and the I-work-with-4-5-doctors-only-lab 399 custom crown. I may want to do a few 99ers a year. I definitely do multiple 2-3-4-even $500 crowns, inlays, onlays, etc. a month. To do that they are going to have to attract better labs to their "platform."

Why use them as the middle man if you are locked into the bulk production market, why not just use a bulk production market lab directly?
 
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Interesting take, glad to hear a dentists view. What determines whether or not to prescribe the $500 or the $99? Are you giving the patient a choice? What are you looking for or expecting in the higher priced crowns? Are they immaculately conceived?
 
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Interesting take, glad to hear a dentists view. What determines whether or not to prescribe the $500 or the $99? Are you giving the patient a choice? What are you looking for or expecting in the higher priced crowns? Are they immaculately conceived?
Pt. finances for the $99 end of the spectrum. Very rare. For the other end (which also doesn't really happen that frequently),it is usually something exotic layered on top of me being a super-anal perfectionist and a bit of an a-hole :). I laugh when I get the bill on those and say, I made them earn the $500 on this one.

Think 5-7x the lab bill for the Dr's bare minimum and ask yourself how many pt's are getting $2500 crowns... maybe 20 in my thirteen years? Those are usually some sort of retrofit to existing partial with semi-precision C-rest type Frankenstein-crowns.
 
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Just looked in my delivery que, have a $417 gold, a $358 gold and a few ~$200 PF-HNs and a pile of 170-190 Zircs, The $2-300 Zirc would be milled wax try-in, custom lab shade, green state try-in w/ or w/o cutback type which is also rare, so 90% of what I do is $170-220 probably (most Zircs and PFMs) and then there's the damn gold crowns. I didn't charge the pt. near enough for the $417 gold crown. One of the reasons I want to try some milled Au58 crowns and see if getting the alloy from a consistent source helps any.

Not sure of what the policy of posting lab fees is on here. We're all screwed anyway once the corporate dental offices take over so I don't personally care who knows fees.
 
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Keep it comin, we love the inside baseball. $170-190 is in the park for zirconia, gold is usually around 350, anything over 400 probaly has a big markup or a lot of gold content. Every case is different and I think youre paying a fair price if youre happy with the work. I wouldnt expect flawless work at that price but thats above production standards and prices and worth every penny if they are consistently beautiful and fit well. Would love to hear how much you get gouged for implant work!
 
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