Best mill Imes Icore CORiTEC 750i vs Datron D5

[BobCDT]

Dyamach DT2 is around Euro 75k

At this is the price it competes with the Imes 450i. We have had the 450i for about six months. Seems to be very accurate for everything we are putting into it. E.max, CrCo and Titanium.

 

[Dentaleng]

450i is surely not worth that money but if it works for you it's great. It is being sold at less than 2/3rd that price which is the real worth of that machine. If you are a reseller you know the prices better.
You should Google Dyamach DT2. For video Search YouTube for Dyamach DT2

 

[Drizzt]

Dyamach - Home Page

http://www.dyamach.com/pdf/schedaFZ2.pdf

This is the website . It looks really nice .

 

[STJDENT]

Cost of 550i is 75000 EUR + vat. Perhaps a better alternative than 450i

 

[Dentaleng]

Dyamach is a high performance machine. Can mill a full arch Ti/CrCo hybrid in under 3hrs with the implant interface specially milled. Can mill in more than 35degrees in both A and B axes. Can't think of a better smaller sized machine to mill Ti and CrCo.

 

[Labwa]

The Imes 450 would be closer to 55k euro with full wet/dry option and 6mm collet. The 550 would be around the 75k euro mark. I think this compares closely with the Dyamach DT2. The DT2 has a bigger spindle so mill speeds would be a little faster no doubt. How much faster...not sure. As for implant interfaces, thats more a CAM thing than a machine thing once you get to this class. They are all capable of specially milling an interface on a bar.
DT2 is nice though.

 

[Dentaleng]

The Imes 450 would be closer to 55k euro with full wet/dry option and 6mm collet. The 550 would be around the 75k euro mark. I think this compares closely with the Dyamach DT2. The DT2 has a bigger spindle so mill speeds would be a little faster no doubt. How much faster...not sure. As for implant interfaces, thats more a CAM thing than a machine thing once you get to this class. They are all capable of specially milling an interface on a bar.
DT2 is nice though.

Hi,
I mentioned of milling the interfaces for the time taken to mill a complete Ti hybrid and not for the capability of the machine. As specially milling each interface may take around 5-7 minutes. Yes the CAM needs to have the library for milling interfaces. We are specially milling the interfaces from day one.
The bigger spindle increases the overall productivity and efficiency of the machine tool and also the cutting tool.

 

[Drizzt]

Hi,
I mentioned of milling the interfaces for the time taken to mill a complete Ti hybrid and not for the capability of the machine. As specially milling each interface may take around 5-7 minutes. Yes the CAM needs to have the library for milling interfaces. We are specially milling the interfaces from day one.
The bigger spindle increases the overall productivity and efficiency of the machine tool and also the cutting tool.

What is the average time you get for c&b and how many tools you're using for metal ? Also what dimmensions ? Thanks .

 

[Dentaleng]

We rarely mill C&B and very rarely single units. Mostly it is 10 units above. Average time per unit is around 15min. in hard CrCo. Though these timings are more CAM dependent.
For C&B I use 5 tools: 4,3,2,1.5,1mm in different shapes.

 

[Drizzt]

We rarely mill C&B and very rarely single units. Mostly it is 10 units above. Average time per unit is around 15min. in hard CrCo. Though these timings are more CAM dependent.
For C&B I use 5 tools: 4,3,2,1.5,1mm in different shapes.

I mill almost all of my metal . Average around 18-20 minutes , depending of the thickness of the disc . Using 3 tools most of the times . The video on youtube is in real time of in fast forward ? Sorry for the amount of questions but it is a really interesting machine and you are the only person I know having it !!

 

[DMC]

Hi,
I mentioned of milling the interfaces for the time taken to mill a complete Ti hybrid and not for the capability of the machine. As specially milling each interface may take around 5-7 minutes. Yes the CAM needs to have the library for milling interfaces. We are specially milling the interfaces from day one.
The bigger spindle increases the overall productivity and efficiency of the machine tool and also the cutting tool.

I have never seen the load on my spindle over 8-10% during roughing, or any operationf for that matter with my Haas.
It has 3.7kw spindle.

Why do you think bigger is always better? The KaVo and many other cut titanium with spindles well under 1kw.

 

[BobCDT]

Here is a the screw retained CrCo bridge we milled on the Imes 450i last week.

 

[Drizzt]

Here is a the screw retained CrCo bridge we milled on the Imes 450i last week.
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Nice surface , looking good ! Do you have any pics on the model ?

 

[BobCDT]

Really messed up and didn't get a shot on the cast. But it did fit the cast with one screw all units seated under scope.
Next time.

 

[Drizzt]

Really messed up and didn't get a shot on the cast. But it did fit the cast with one screw all units seated under scope.
Next time.

Nice , passive fit .

 

[NicelyMKV]

Nice Bob! How long did that take?

 

[Dentaleng]

I have never seen the load on my spindle over 8-10% during roughing, or any operationf for that matter with my Haas.
It has 3.7kw spindle.

Why do you think bigger is always better? The KaVo and many other cut titanium with spindles well under 1kw.

The same reason why you bought ur HAAS. I didn't expected this question from you. Google Spindle power, torque and spindle speed and you shall have ur answers

 

[Drizzt]

Milled in 1 hour and 16 minutes .

 

[martintay]

Looks really nice- and great fit.

 

[Drizzt]

Yep . This is screwed with one screw . The fit was great . I made first the same bridge out of PMMA , went for try in , and after verification of the implants position , I milled it in metal . The best thing of the whole metal milling stuff for me , is the implnat related restorations . Huge time saver . And very cost effective compared to the traditional methods .