Average alloy weight on implant PFM (UCLA) restorations

[AnAppleaDay]

Hello DLN,

We still get a good amount of Gold PFM cases on implants, where we use UCLA abutments.
In order to help my customers anticipate the metal costs, I'd like to provide them with a guideline of average weight per tooth.
For example, Anterior tooth: [#g to ##g], Posterior tooth [##g to ####g].

I am sure one of you has done the exercise and compiled average weights...
Care to share?

TIA

 

[rkm rdt]

ladened or unladened?

 

[AnAppleaDay]

ladened or unladened?

Basically, how many grams they should reasonably expect to be charged for, so they can quote the patient a worst-case scenario and reduce sticker shock.

 

[Brett Hansen CDT]

I couldn't do this. Way to much variation. Switch them to ceramic crowns and milled custom abutments
and avoid these issues.

 

[Brett Hansen CDT]

For instance, we charge a flat $450 for a screw retained zirconia or emax monolithic crown on a custom abutment.

 

[rkm rdt]

Basically, how many grams they should reasonably expect to be charged for, so they can quote the patient a worst-case scenario and reduce sticker shock.

I would never do that ever.You have no idea the size or length of any restoration and you will end up losing eveytime you guess before hand.
Go back and look at your most expensive fee and use that as the benchmark.

 

[Jason D]

That’s crazy, move them into the 21st century...out of 5,000 ish implant last year maybe 2 were UCLAs

 

[Tayebdental]

With today’s alloy prices, it’s crazy

 

[Jo Chen]

UCLA and white high noble PFM $900 and up. But that was 15 years ago

 

[rkm rdt]

Just think how rich we could be if we could predict the future price of gold and palladium.

 

[lcmlabforum]

While you are at it, can you get me the numbers to the Power Ball?

 

[rkm rdt]

While you are at it, can you get me the numbers to the Power Ball?

did you want the winning #s or close but no cigar?

 

[AnAppleaDay]

Thanks all.

We are unfortunately in a region where a lot of (older) clinicians demand PFMs and if I could snap my fingers and get rid of all the waxing and casting, I would.
We outsource most of it to Argen, which helps, but I'd be much happier producing 100% ceramic/zirconia.

We need to educate them, but some of them will retire before they change.

 

[Jason D]

That’s a function of market forces.
Raise your price price by 50-100$ and watch how fast these “stubborn, I’ll never change” guys change their tune