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    1. GarryB

      GarryB Well-Known Member Full Member

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      Had a rep drop in yesterday and left a couple of trial ingots of Zublers Concept Press.

      The ingots are 2gram ingots. I like the idea of smaller ingots as most of my emax are single units, so I have to press them all individually, 1 ingot 1 crown (never seem to get the same shades in ate the same time).

      The downside for this, and for me is that 5 of the 2g ingots costs almost as much as 5 emax ingots? not sure how that is going to sell many. As I said I love the idea of the smaller ingots for my situation but it makes virtually no difference cost wise.

      Anyone had a look at these or pressed them? Any advice on pressing cycles? I'm pressing one today and just going to jump in and use a standard emax cycle.
       
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      Hello Garry,
      I work for Zubler USA and feel that the rep did you a disservice by not providing you enough information to work with the material. Here is a link to our website that has information on pressing and firing temperatures. http://zublerusa.com/page8/offsite-5/page19/. I hope this helps.

      Ryan McEachern
       
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      sidesh0wb0b Well-Known Member Full Member

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      awhile back people seemed interested in them....but it never seemed to take off. at least not that i have seen. would love to hear some lab feedback on them.
       
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      Zubler is a reputable company with good people like Ryan. While on the topic of alternative LD materials, is Amber Press from Hass getting any traction out there?
       
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    5. GarryB

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      Hi Ryan,
      Thanks for the reply and link......lots of info on there.
      I didn't use the Concept press on Friday as it was a rush job and not having the correct press cycle couldn't afford a mispress. I will however use it on my next case and leave some feedback on the results.
      There is still the sticking point for me on the costing though with a 2g ingot costing almost the same as an emax ingot. But as I said I like the idea of smaller ingots.
       
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      Garry,
      I am glad I can help! As far as pricing that is up to your distributor, we sell a tube of 2gr for $80.00 US.
       
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      I've tried Concept press, Lisi, Celtra, and next week I have a few Amber that I'll try. So far, unless the cost is low enough, there is nothing to get too excited about, IMHO. e.max works flawlessly for me, so I need a real reason to switch.
       
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      We've switched to Lisi press and the pricing is good, plus they have a buy 3 get 1 free sale all of the time.
       
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      recently been moving more toward Lisi Press. results have been great for the most part, and with the free tubes of ingots GC offers (i think its buy 3 get one free) the cost is even lower. i still use emax for certain shades and cases....but GC is doing well here.
       

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