Some crowns are opposing eachother and some are not

[millennium]

Need a little help on this one. Both arches will be working models in DB set up if I do the upper and lower in one shot, so can't click to adjust to opposing model.
What is the best way to set up this job so I can adjust to opposing. I was thinking to cad the upper first and then import that finished upper to a separate job to design the lower. I just don't know how to save the upper in the first job and how to import it as the opposing model to the second job. So what is the best way to design this case with the least amount of guesswork?
Thanks in advance!

 

[millennium]

This is in exocad ^

 

[Contraluz]

This is in exocad ^

Maybe design the lower 'ideal', then create an stl of it and use it to oppose the upper arch?

 

[millennium]

Maybe design the lower 'ideal', then create an stl of it and use it to oppose the upper arch?

I don't know how to save and import, Can you please share how to.

 

[RileyS]

Let me share my wisdom of exocad with you
Once they are completely finished, make sure only the arch and crowns you want to copy are visible and click expert mode.
Then, right click save.
choose export scene to mesh.
Give it a distinguishable name if you'd like and and hit save, then yes when asked a question.
Now, I imagine you open the other order to design the other teeth and choose to design without scanning so you can import the new working archwith teeth to be designed and the saved crowns as the opposing. They should import in the correct bite as well

 

[Contraluz]

I don't know how to save and import, Can you please share how to.

Oh my, It has been a while since I played with exocad. Maybe some one more knowledgable can help you.

 

[RileyS]

But I have designed crowns that oppose each other and you can adjust to opposing still. When you do, there is a little box to check so you can decide which crowns to "cut intersections"/ reduce to opposing.

 

[millennium]

Let me share my wisdom of exocad with you
Once they are completely finished, make sure only the arch and crowns you want to copy are visible and click expert mode.
Then, right click save.
choose export scene to mesh.
Give it a distinguishable name if you'd like and and hit save, then yes when asked a question.
Now, I imagine you open the other order to design the other teeth and choose to design without scanning so you can import the new working archwith teeth to be designed and the saved crowns as the opposing. They should import in the correct bite as well

I just tried this with a single crown for practice. Everything worked but I don't know where to find the saved mesh.

 

[millennium]

When I write up the second job do I scan the opposing and then export mesh and merge it with the scanned opposing?

 

[RileyS]

So you've already scanned the two arches that need teeth and designed the arch of your choice. Then did the expert mode, right click save, export mesh (when exporting mesh it will open the file folder, look at the top area where there is a line of drive/file names and that will be where it's saved in the below pic of my screen it says
"this PC > Windows (C > CAD-Data-Plovdiv > yada yada......this is the directions on how to find the file next time, it should just be that same patients file.

So when you start the opposing crowns as a new case just set it up as a normal case with the crowns selected and the oppossing selected as any normal case. Instead of scanning again select the design icon. It will automaticall bring up the file window to and ask you to choose the working side jaw. So open that patients file and select the correct jaw. it will then ask you to select the opposing jaw, here select the already designed crowns you did the expert mode export file for.

 

[RileyS]

#exocadconfusionisreal.org

 

[millennium]

It worked!!!!!! Whatever is selected to scan (Opposing or working etc). import mesh imports the file there!!!
So after I scan articulated models I can align the imported mesh with the articulated model to get the correct position??

 

[RileyS]

It worked!!!!!! Whatever is selected to scan (Opposing or working etc). import mesh imports the file there!!!
So after I scan articulated models I can align the imported mesh with the articulated model to get the correct position??

I think it should import in the right position automatically because it's in that position from the original scan.

 

[RileyS]

I really don't think you should have to scan again

 

[millennium]

RileyS Thank you for your wisdom and willingness to help a drowning fellow dental tech

 

[RileyS]

aahhh look at us drowning together!

 

[FASTFNGR]

Need a little help on this one. Both arches will be working models in DB set up if I do the upper and lower in one shot, so can't click to adjust to opposing model.
What is the best way to set up this job so I can adjust to opposing. I was thinking to cad the upper first and then import that finished upper to a separate job to design the lower. I just don't know how to save the upper in the first job and how to import it as the opposing model to the second job. So what is the best way to design this case with the least amount of guesswork?
Thanks in advance! View attachment 37002 View attachment 37003

The way I see it you have plenty of land marks to do them separately. Start a job with either one first, design the upper and then open another work file and do the opposing. This way you can used”adjust opposing” as you like.

 

[TheLabGuy]

Does this mean RileyS doesn't hate Medit/Exocad?...asking for a friend

 

[RileyS]

Does this mean RileyS doesn't hate Medit/Exocad?...asking for a friend

HHHHhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaa hhhhhhhhaaaa hhhhaaa
Oh boy
that is rich!
that's a good one!
i still think it's stupid

 

[FullPartial]

Slightly off topic. Curious why #3 isn’t a custom abutment? Seems like a really tall implant crown over a very short abutment? I’ve had this situation debond in the past. I’ve got some ingrained fears.