Zimmer Eztetic

[Rick Sonntag]

What the hell decade are we in?? No scan body and no custom abutment option for the "latest and greatest" from Zimmer, UCLA only. What corporate ladder-climbing, ass kissing half-wit made that decision??

 

[rkm rdt]

These guys

 

[Affinity]

improve like the best or die like the rest

 

[JohnWilson]

http://zimmerdental.com/pdf/zim_zfxBro6903.pdf

 

[eyeloveteeth]

I think everyone needs to calm down.

1. Their new implant will actually incorporate something similar to Encode
2. Remember they still have to work out ALL of the kinks in their development / acquisition of 3i

I will say, they are horrendous with their corporate to client communication, but I have high hopes for them.

 

[Sevan P]

A lot of hoops to jump through and a lot harder when you need FDA approval. Slowly but surely.

 

[keith goldstein]

Another encode solution as though the dental labs need to be locked out of producing restorations for this system as well plus price points beyond logic. Dentist and surgeons need to wake up to these "marketing gimicks" from these implant companies that offer no real value add or better results.

 

[Rick Sonntag]

http://zimmerdental.com/pdf/zim_zfxBro6903.pdf

False advertising perhaps?

 

[sidesh0wb0b]

What the hell decade are we in?? No scan body and no custom abutment option for the "latest and greatest" from Zimmer, UCLA only. What corporate ladder-climbing, ass kissing half-wit made that decision??

they are taking great leaps toward the 3i narritive of making things more challenging!

 

[TheLabGuy]

Any update to a cad/cam solution on this type of implant out there?

 

[TheLabGuy]

What the hell decade are we in?? No scan body and no custom abutment option for the "latest and greatest" from Zimmer, UCLA only. What corporate ladder-climbing, ass kissing half-wit made that decision??

Yeah, shame on Zimmer....here it is going on December and this type of implant (12 months since its release) STILL HAS NO CAD/CAM OPTION. So i get to spend my thanksgiving fking around with a UCLA...that cost me $300.00 each. Yeah, I'm PISSED, can you tell?!!!!

 

[JohnWilson]

Don't be pissed just change $750 for the abutment and see how fast your GP yells at his surgeon.

CAD/CAM helps not just our sanity but our clients checkbook as well.

 

[rkm rdt]

Yeah, shame on Zimmer....here it is going on December and this type of implant (12 months since its release) STILL HAS NO CAD/CAM OPTION. So i get to spend my thanksgiving fking around with a UCLA...that cost me $300.00 each. Yeah, I'm PISSED, can you tell?!!!!

I'd be pissed too.

This buy original mantra falls short when you have no digital options. $300.00 for a base and plastic 1'' long straw.

 

[rkm rdt]

Don't be pissed just change $750 for the abutment and see how fast your GP yells at his surgeon.

CAD/CAM helps not just our sanity but our clients checkbook as well.

Does that include the metal fee?

 

[CatamountRob]

When you can charge $300 for a UCLA abutment, why would you want to offer other options?

 

[JohnWilson]

Does that include the metal fee?

Assuming it was used in an indicated site the amount of alloy would most likely be less than $30 bucks on that mini implant

 

[rkm rdt]

Assuming it was used in an indicated site the amount of alloy would most likely be less than $30 bucks on that mini implant

I'm not sure the dr even knows what a ucla abutment is.
I had an office manager rip me a new one because she thought I charged for 2 abutments. The ucla and the finished abutment. Component fees and alloy fees seem to add to their confusion. Especially when you have implant reps suggesting the lab fees up front.

 

[JohnWilson]

Totally agree, line itemizing parts, labor, + alloy is SMART. When they complain its easy to share that flat rate abutments can be made when we have a more direct path utilizing CAD CAM. I used it as a great marketing opportunity and inform them of our flat rate price for Zirconia and Titanium cad cam abutments as well as Hybrid style abutments. Sometimes its very confusing when they read a price list but some how when they are pissed they seem to understand the issue better.

 

[TheLabGuy]

This is the email I just sent to all the corporate leaders of 3i and Zimmer...maybe I was too harsh???

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I don’t complain much, for one I don’t have the time and I believe it turns into a bitch session which serves no purpose. However, I have to step in here when it affects patients in my community and my Dentist clientele. Which brings to the question and concern I have, Why on Gods green earth does Zimmer offer an implant (Ezthetic) system that after a year STILL HAS NO cad/cam solution to it?...and who was the person that climbed the corporate ladder that brought this implant system to the market without a simple scan body or cam solution? I want that persons name, seriously, does any thought go into the end user when you come out with a new implant system? This is suppose to be the latest greatest thing Zimmer is offering and I’m about to chuck this 40K implant case out the door because I HAVE TO MAKE UCLA abutments on it. Is this not the dental digital age?...did you guys not get the memo? So I here I’m gonna sit on my Thanksgiving trying to make these implant abutments parallel so a cement retained restoration can be placed. Oh, and to top it off, the UCLA abutments cost me over $300 each and that’s just from you. Doesn’t even include the upcharge on the precious metal I have to use to cast these. I’m serious folks, do you not have any technicians on staff when you bring this to market? This is implant planning 101!!! As you can tell I’m upset, feel free to pass this on to whomever and wherever. I’m going be busy for awhile shaking my head in disbelief and missing my Thanksgiving.


Semper Fi,
Rob Teachout CDT, BSc
Patriot Dental Lab
http://www.patriotdentallab.com

 

[JohnWilson]

This is the email I just sent to all the corporate leaders of 3i and Zimmer...maybe I was too harsh???

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I don’t complain much, for one I don’t have the time and I believe it turns into a bitch session which serves no purpose. However, I have to step in here when it affects patients in my community and my Dentist clientele. Which brings to the question and concern I have, Why on Gods green earth does Zimmer offer an implant (Ezthetic) system that after a year STILL HAS NO cad/cam solution to it?...and who was the person that climbed the corporate ladder that brought this implant system to the market without a simple scan body or cam solution? I want that persons name, seriously, does any thought go into the end user when you come out with a new implant system? This is suppose to be the latest greatest thing Zimmer is offering and I’m about to chuck this 40K implant case out the door because I HAVE TO MAKE UCLA abutments on it. Is this not the dental digital age?...did you guys not get the memo? So I here I’m gonna sit on my Thanksgiving trying to make these implant abutments parallel so a cement retained restoration can be placed. Oh, and to top it off, the UCLA abutments cost me over $300 each and that’s just from you. Doesn’t even include the upcharge on the precious metal I have to use to cast these. I’m serious folks, do you not have any technicians on staff when you bring this to market? This is implant planning 101!!! As you can tell I’m upset, feel free to pass this on to whomever and wherever. I’m going be busy for awhile shaking my head in disbelief and missing my Thanksgiving.


Semper Fi,
Rob Teachout CDT, BSc
Patriot Dental Lab
http://www.patriotdentallab.com

You have a big bridge case with this fixture Rob? I thought this was a mini implant fixture 3mm style? ZFX states they can mill them

http://www.zimmerdental.com/pdf/zim_imp_ZD1638_Eztetic.pdf