Ive got it, youll want it. Lava Esthetic

[user name]

Nice to here do you have any pictures and a tip for sintercycles?

A picture of a Katana and Lava of the same tooth side by side would be nice. But that's your material and your time user, so I understand otherwise

Don't let the bugger off the hook!
We demand pics or else......

Both sinter ovens were full last night. Well, not full, but running. I have a bridge of katana that I also did in Lava that will get sintered today. Its about a 5 hour cycle. Pics will be up later today.

 

[lucky54]

Which temps you are sintering

 

[user name]

Which temps you are sintering

On the lava Esthetic...
20c/min to 800
10c/min to 1500
120 min hold
slow cool. max 15c down to 800, then max 20c down to 250.

That's the recommended cycle. Seems to work great. all Ive cooked is in the Dekema. I haven't tried a cycle in the big Mihm yet.

On the katana Im just going 10c/min up to 1540 with a 2 hour hold, slow cool. The A shades look fine, but the C shades are a bit of a turd. I can honestly get better results with other Zrs on C-2, C-3 and C-4.

 

[lucky54]

Thank you for the info

 

[sidesh0wb0b]

pics pics pics. where are the pics. cmon, its not like you have teeth to make!

 

[corona]

congrats User ..... the downside is .... R. Chritianson kinda poopooed on the high translucent ZR's ..... so you know ...whatever they say is like EF Hutton . In the latest LMT

 

[user name]

congrats User ..... the downside is .... R. Chritianson kinda poopooed on the high translucent ZR's ..... so you know ...whatever they say is like EF Hutton . In the latest LMT

Congrats on what?

 

[JMN]

congrats User ..... the downside is .... R. Chritianson kinda poopooed on the high translucent ZR's ..... so you know ...whatever they say is like EF Hutton . In the latest LMT

I still can't believe that guy has the pull he does. I may have missed it, but I've yet to see any comment by him that wasn't littered with a militant vagueness of conditionals with a slew of could, maybe, might, and possibly.

 

[user name]

pics pics pics. where are the pics. cmon, its not like you have teeth to make!

Ive shot so many pics, and I cant get a shot with both bridges and a shade tab looking good. Ive tried different backgrounds, playing with the flash, I just said screw it. I can get good intra orals, but on the bench needs some work. I have snow to go shovel.

 

[sidesh0wb0b]

Ive shot so many pics, and I cant get a shot with both bridges and a shade tab looking good. Ive tried different backgrounds, playing with the flash, I just said screw it. I can get good intra orals, but on the bench needs some work. I have snow to go shovel.

all good buddy, just harassing you

 

[sidesh0wb0b]

congrats User ..... the downside is .... R. Chritianson kinda poopooed on the high translucent ZR's ..... so you know ...whatever they say is like EF Hutton . In the latest LMT

i think its too late to turn that boat around. its here whether he likes it or not.

 

[Car 54]

congrats User ..... the downside is .... R. Chritianson kinda poopooed on the high translucent ZR's ..... so you know ...whatever they say is like EF Hutton . In the latest LMT

Rella Christensen is kinda taking over as far as research, but uncle Gordy is still the figurehead. I also think they have to much research with Bruxzir, and maybe
a little loyalty to Glidewell, especially since Glidewell is the leader in lab price slashing for the Drs benefit.

 

[JMN]

i think its too late to turn that boat around. its here whether he likes it or not.

For years a lab I was at was asking the dds to seat our feldspathics with shaded cement. Nope, G. Gordon Christiansen will shoot us! Now he recommends shaded cements...
It's wrong or right based on his whim, and it changes.
Isn't that a cult??

 

[user name]

all good buddy, just harassing you

Its not the magic bullet. With the katana, its pretty and trans, but on the shades Ive used so far, the dentin colors are too war. Almost too pink or orange, but they are nice. Especially the incisals.

On the lavas Ive used...so far, the dentins are better, but just a bit less incisal trans, and the inc it on the bright side. I think they'll benefit from some light touch of pre-sinter enhancements. Im still trying to figure it all out. Ill cook some lava in the other oven the next couple days and see how it looks. I might need to go just a bit hotter.

 

[user name]

Hmm. Ever had a crush on a girl and then kinda lost the lust? Shes still hot, but you want to keep your options open. I had a case frustrate me this morning, so Im re doing it in a different material. I need more transluceny.

NEVER substitute my opinion for your own.

These comments have not been approved by my sponsor and are solely my own. Your results may vary.

 

[sidesh0wb0b]

Its not the magic bullet. With the katana, its pretty and trans, but on the shades Ive used so far, the dentin colors are too war. Almost too pink or orange, but they are nice. Especially the incisals.

On the lavas Ive used...so far, the dentins are better, but just a bit less incisal trans, and the inc it on the bright side. I think they'll benefit from some light touch of pre-sinter enhancements. Im still trying to figure it all out. Ill cook some lava in the other oven the next couple days and see how it looks. I might need to go just a bit hotter.

spoke for an hour with my Jensen rep today. youre not the only one feeling that way about katana.
out of curiosity, how did you get your hands on the lava?

 

[Car 54]

Its not the magic bullet. With the katana, its pretty and trans, but on the shades Ive used so far, the dentin colors are too war. Almost too pink or orange, but they are nice. Especially the incisals.

Agree. I think the chroma for the As are missing a bit of red/brown. Thanks for the tip in one of your other posts about Katana C shades not looking so good, the technical term I think you used was, they looked like "turds". I think I'll pass on trying those. Thanks for saving me some money there

 

[user name]

Agree. I think the chroma for the As are missing a bit of red/brown. Thanks for the tip in one of your other posts about Katana C shades not looking so good, the technical term I think you used was, they looked like "turds". I think I'll pass on trying those. Thanks for saving me some money there

The 'C's were appropriately low value, but the color wasn't there and the incisal trans was lacking.

spoke for an hour with my Jensen rep today. youre not the only one feeling that way about katana.
out of curiosity, how did you get your hands on the lava?

 

[Car 54]

spoke for an hour with my Jensen rep today. youre not the only one feeling that way about katana.
out of curiosity, how did you get your hands on the lava?

Could you tell us more about what Jensen said?

 

[rkm rdt]

Could you tell us more about what Jensen said?