Diagnostics Du Jour

[RileyS]

New outline pmma from anaxdent. First try making snap on type temp for prepless style veneers. Polished surface for finish. Looking to do more this style before trying characterized. Open to tips. Processed according to directions.




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Nice mike! How thin are these? I really want do this stuff.

 

[Dentalmike]

Nice mike! How thin are these? I really want do this stuff.

Thanks RileyS. The teeth are short and flat. Temps are probably .5-1mm facially and 2-3mm incisally. Wanted them to have some durability as they will be used as removable temps. The 2sets. Finals will be .2 at thinnest from emergence. Will be using emax.

 

[Al.]

I like the renfert geo tooth colored wax. its opaque and a nice A1/2 shade easy to see detail compared to the white wax.

 

[RileyS]

I like the renfert geo tooth colored wax. its opaque and a nice A1/2 shade easy to see detail compared to the white wax.

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well not too bad Al!

 

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[French Cadman]

I'm looking for the same wax as Al with multi layers to mill it ...
98 with step for open system ....
If you know something like that , call me !

Merci !

Nice Al , nice the canadian ! bon boulot !

 

[Marcusthegladiator CDT]

I like the renfert geo tooth colored wax. its opaque and a nice A1/2 shade easy to see detail compared to the white wax.

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That's some damn nice wax and some damn nice detail.

 

[AlyssaRad]

Any tricks on how to transfer the diagnostics to a prepped model for e.max? Single units are fine, it's the bigger cases that are a pain like full anterior restorations. The transfer is almost always too long (I'm assuming its the lack of stability within that span causing the matrix to flex) the overall shape is pretty good tho. I tried out 95 shore sheraduplica hard putty today. It was super hard and had minimal flexing, but the transfer was still slightly long. (I flowed the wax in) I've tried injecting the wax, usually ends up with bubbles or missing areas, not sure if this is from the type of injection we have, or if the temp is too high? It shoots the wax up like a fountain.

 

[Bentchase]

Great end result chase
If these are emax, are milling wax with your preciso?

Layered zirconia milled on my preciso.
Thanks!

 

[Marcusthegladiator CDT]

Any tricks on how to transfer the diagnostics to a prepped model for e.max? Single units are fine, it's the bigger cases that are a pain like full anterior restorations. The transfer is almost always too long (I'm assuming its the lack of stability within that span causing the matrix to flex) the overall shape is pretty good tho. I tried out 95 shore sheraduplica hard putty today. It was super hard and had minimal flexing, but the transfer was still slightly long. (I flowed the wax in) I've tried injecting the wax, usually ends up with bubbles or missing areas, not sure if this is from the type of injection we have, or if the temp is too high? It shoots the wax up like a fountain.

Crank down the temp on your wax injector. Either way, that wax gets dirty and I don't like to use it for pressing. But if you think you can keep it clean. Go for it.



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[AlyssaRad]

Crank down the temp on your wax injector. Either way, that wax gets dirty and I don't like to use it for pressing. But if you think you can keep it clean. Go for it.

Not really a fan of injecting either, it's messy and like you said dirty wax. How do you usually transfer?


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[Marcusthegladiator CDT]

Not really a fan of injecting either, it's messy and like you said dirty wax. How do you usually transfer?


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Just spoon some hot wax into your matrix...

 

[AlyssaRad]

Just spoon some hot wax into your matrix...

Yeah, that's how I've been doing it. Thanks!


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[CoolHandLuke]

use software to scan both models and align them, then 3d print the overlap.

 

[Affinity]

I use the renfert geo wax too, i use the white and white trans

 

[Mrs.galfriday]

'Just spoon some hot wax into your matrix...'

Is it the printer or the 3D that makes a wax crown to a coping? I just can't get those natural cusp occlusal furcation's in my wax-ups. Or are you guys using a mold and then setting into the occlusion?

 

[Marcusthegladiator CDT]

use software to scan both models and align them, then 3d print the overlap.

First I have to 3d print a 3d printer.

 

[Al.]

'Just spoon some hot wax into your matrix...'

Is it the printer or the 3D that makes a wax crown to a coping? I just can't get those natural cusp occlusal furcation's in my wax-ups. Or are you guys using a mold and then setting into the occlusion?

UGH hand waxing occlusals = never going home.
Silicone molds for me !!!!!

 

[Mrs.galfriday]

"UGH hand waxing occlusals = never going home.
Silicone molds for me !!!!!"

Thanks Al. The photos are also revealing. Showing a diagnostic is also an interesting foot in the door to elusive dentists.

 

[Marcusthegladiator CDT]

UGH hand waxing occlusals = never going home.
Silicone molds for me !!!!!

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Al, I am curious, when do you decide to make things natural? Regarding the rotation of the anteriors in the arch. I would love the opportunity to build an anterior case this way. But if I did that, the case would come back as a remake and the doctor would ask, "Why the hell are all the teeth crooked?" When we are mirroring one side of the arch or when its applicable in a single unit restoration, we may do this. But when do you decide to do this when building a full arch like the lower seen in the photos?