custom abutments made of e.max

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Hi, just thought I would mention this while you are considering doing an abutment in Emax. Remember that emax, like all other all ceramic materials including zirconia, will undergo a phase change over 5 years in the oral environment. This will result in up to 50% reduction in flexural strength. Therefore you can imagine that your abutment may only have 200mpa after the phase change. Do you think this is strong enough? Remember the failed alumina abutments we all did in early procera abutments, and they had a starting flexural strength of 600 mpa. Food for thought??

Where did you find this info at ? Is it documented ? Very curious .
 
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Where did you find this info at ? Is it documented ? Very curious .

I knew I had read this years ago, take a look at page 5. Been quoting it to my docs for years:
 

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There is a solution and its called Hotbond

A new technic to solder e.max to titanium or ZR to titanium

It's a german invention and already succesfull on the market. In the Staes
it's coming soon.

If you want to know more just inform me

Kurt Zubler

Hello Kurt!
how can i email you?
i have a lot of interest in Hotbond and have few information about it.
my email is [email protected]
thanks, all the best
Danilo
 
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ive got a case that is a straumann RC bone level on the #9 with #8 prepped . the stump is multicolored and i think that customizing a Li2Si abutment would be great to match the adjacent prep . Ive called straumann and they say they dont make a titanium insert for this procedure . Can anyone please make any suggestions as to what to do ??? thanks in advance
 
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ive got a case that is a straumann RC bone level on the #9 with #8 prepped . the stump is multicolored and i think that customizing a Li2Si abutment would be great to match the adjacent prep . Ive called straumann and they say they dont make a titanium insert for this procedure . Can anyone please make any suggestions as to what to do ??? thanks in advance

They make temp abutments out of ti prep it down to the desired height.
 
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They make temp abutments out of ti prep it down to the desired height.

yeah i talked with ivoclar about that and the support guy said that wouldnt work . Is the temp in titanium the same type of titanium for the abutments ???
 
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Here is one that was fitted yesterday... mesio incisal edge was ok on the model... will get it back and make an addition.

Works well, emax abutment bonded onto titanium base with an emax crown on top

Value a bit high, but patient and dentist happy...

http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af238/cumino52/Lab/IMG_1180.jpg
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pip

Nice man! Great work.

Did you have any issues? Screw channel busting during press? Fitting to the ti base?

Did you do the try-in with the light body impression material, or just deliver permanently cemented?

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No problems...didnt press over the Tibase, waxed,pressed and cemented...sent the crown and abutment separately and the dentist fitted them

If you look on the Ivoclar site, should be info on there I went on a Ivoclar course on emax abutments
 
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No problems...didnt press over the Tibase, waxed,pressed and cemented...sent the crown and abutment separately and the dentist fitted them

If you look on the Ivoclar site, should be info on there I went on a Ivoclar course on emax abutments

Cool.

I have the manual with all the protocol. Read it through twice now. ;) Was just wondering if you did the l tryin option or not.

Again, great case man. :thumbup:




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So what's the rules for doing screw retained e-max abutments? Like you can't do a bridge from 2-4 only suppose to have 1 molar on an emax bridge. Can you use these for 1st molar restorations? Would you? Just got a case in where the doc wants to do a #30 screw retained e-max. I don't know if I want to be doing these.
 
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Here is one that was fitted yesterday... mesio incisal edge was ok on the model... will get it back and make an addition.

Works well, emax abutment bonded onto titanium base with an emax crown on top

Value a bit high, but patient and dentist happy...

http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af238/cumino52/Lab/IMG_1180.jpg
http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af238/cumino52/Lab/IMG_1181.jpg
http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af238/cumino52/Lab/IMG_1185.jpg

pip

That looks like a lot of fun. Would be great to wax abutments like UCLA in house but press it.
Emax hasn't even been the main squeez in the industry for a relatively long time. So I imagine sometime in a few years
well all be building them often. Again, looks like fun.... Thanks for sharing...
 
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Here is one that was fitted yesterday... mesio incisal edge was ok on the model... will get it back and make an addition.

Works well, emax abutment bonded onto titanium base with an emax crown on top

Value a bit high, but patient and dentist happy...

http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af238/cumino52/Lab/IMG_1180.jpg
http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af238/cumino52/Lab/IMG_1181.jpg
http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af238/cumino52/Lab/IMG_1185.jpg

pip

Im curious, does the interface hold steady in the ring by a T bar or something, or is the interface itself surrounded by investment enough to hold the interface in place while being pressed????
 
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Done it. Doing it. Will do it again.
 
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Im curious, does the interface hold steady in the ring by a T bar or something, or is the interface itself surrounded by investment enough to hold the interface in place while being pressed????

You wax to the interface and press without it.

You then cement the abutment/restoration to the base. It never enters the furnace.
 
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You wax to the interface and press without it.

You then cement the abutment/restoration to the base. It never enters the furnace.

Ok thx, very good.
I was thinking there could be some retention cuts on the interface. Im not a fan of two piece cemented abut's.
 
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Ya,why not?

99% of all my implant cases are done this way. This is the first preference of all my clients.
 
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Everyone seems to have bypassed this?

Is it just me who sees amazing potential in a product such as this? Imagine what you could design!

i wonder how long it would take for someone to conjure up a way to print this wax substance in a wax printer, cast and sinter. this would really do a number of great and awesome things for manufacturing with surface textures (which can get lost or blocked out during machining). this would be the way to print really fancy edges and splines.
 
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