Anyone casting to TI interface?

[charles hallam cdt]

If cut a horizontal and vertical retention groves, it's not going to fail. No matter what oxide forms.
My two cents! Mill customs is my choice

Mine also. But I always get a screw retained request. I believe screw retained is kinder to the surounding tissue

 

[CatamountRob]

I'm not trying to hide or b deceive. If I thought what I was trying was going to cause lawsuit I wouldn't do it. Have you never experimented in the lab

Nope. I use d.sign porcelain on d.sign alloys, e.max ceram on e.max, the correct stains and glazes. I'm really good at following directions, not so good at the scientist thing.

 

[2thm8kr]

Nope. I use d.sign porcelain on d.sign alloys, e.max ceram on e.max, the correct stains and glazes. I'm really good at following directions, not so good at the scientist thing.

But you are partially mad, no?

 

[charles hallam cdt]

Not trying to anger anyone. Just think outside of the box every once in a while

 

[CatamountRob]

But you are partially mad, no?

Quite clearly.

 

[CatamountRob]

Not trying to anger anyone. Just think outside of the box every once in a while

HaHa! He meant "mad" as in crazy, not angry. No ones angry.

 

[Car 54]

Nope. I use d.sign porcelain on d.sign alloys, e.max ceram on e.max, the correct stains and glazes. I'm really good at following directions, not so good at the scientist thing.

That makes trouble shooting and working with Tech support so much easier when things come up. It takes some of the variables out of the picture when working with 2-3 different materials on a crown, of what or "who" caused the issue.

 

[charles hallam cdt]

I

That makes trouble shooting and working with Tech support so much easier when things come up. It takes some of the variables out of the picture when working with 2-3 different materials on a crown, of what or "who" caused the issue.

I agree. Which is why I discussed this with dr before doing what I did

 

[charles hallam cdt]

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I agree. Which is why I discussed this with dr before doing what I did

if we always follow directions how will we discover new techniques. Not trying to reinvent the wheel just exploring options

 

[2thm8kr]

Not trying to anger anyone. Just think outside of the box every once in a while

Doubt anyone is mad in the sense of anger.
I was making a reference to a previous member who used to call us all mad scientists.

 

[Andrew Priddy]

just recently did a high noble over a tibase with Argen, turned out nice.. I set it up as slm, but they did it as DPM.. strauman synocta, screw retained..
they don't have pricing set up for it, and bitched a little about me doing it.. but they are about to get a few more
so i'm thinking they might want to figure out a code and pricing.
they do CrCo the same way, so it really isn't a stretch for them

wax n cast.. then bond to the Ti Base.. easy

 

[charles hallam cdt]

Doubt anyone is mad in the sense of anger.
I was making a reference to a previous member who used to call us all mad scientists.

Sounds like a smart man. Ha!ha

 

[Car 54]

I
I agree. Which is why I discussed this with dr before doing what I did

Yes, and I agree with you I have a account that will occasionally ask, "can you...?" and I usually follow it up with, "yes (if it is truly workable) but I can't warranty it". Otherwise, I have him send it out to one of the "mega labs" who may have done it 100 times before.

 

[charles hallam cdt]

Yes, and I agree with you I have a account that will occasionally ask, "can you...?" and I usually follow it up with, "yes (if it is truly workable) but I can't warranty it". Otherwise, I have him send it out to one of the "mega labs" who may have done it 100 times before.

mega labs. Ha

 

[Car 54]

 

[rkm rdt]

....and people are worried about sending stuff to China because they don't know what they are getting....

This is why the FDA or some other Federal agency will eventually be more involved in dental labs.

They probably have drones.

 

[rkm rdt]

But you are partially mad, no?

I didn't know he did removables?

 

[aqdental]

Have cast gold adpt ucla interfaces but not tried ti

Don't try. No bond because oxides ( heavy). Also titanium fired over 882 degrees Celsius has a phase transformation which changes it (becomes brittle). And there will be too much difference in CTE between the two alloys ( this will cause lots of tension during cooling).

 

[Tom Moore]

Metal stuck to metal stuck to porcelain...what will they think of next? What's next custom made Ti abutments? So much information and so little space to store it. A conundrum.

 

[Tom Moore]

If

if we always follow directions how will we discover new techniques. Not trying to reinvent the wheel just exploring options

Experimenting on things not going into an unwilling uninformed patient's mouth would be a place to start.