Ok I just got this case in the mail. It is a bridge from a Dr that is just starting to send me work. This bridge is from another lab. He tried the bridge in and took a half dozen pics. He sent me the bridge and their model work and the original imp. He requested I call him which I will do tomorrow and he wants me to strip their porc off and redo it using their frame work. The frame looks ok to use I should be ok there. I dont know the name of the lab or how much he paid yet, but I wont post the labs name anyway. Shade and trans or lack of it are another story, it needs alot of contour changes. It needs way more lip support added, the height of contours need to come way out, the line angles and the long axis need to be changed, the D of the lats need to be brought over towards the cuspids it needs more incisal seperation etc. etc. I actually see this alot, people dont realize how much the ridges have shrunk back and way undercontour the gin pontics. In all fairness to the other lab sometimes you cant tell untill you see it in the mouth. Ok I printed out this pic and I rough sketched out the changes I intend to make. Then I snapped a pic of my sketch and uploaded it. Im going to send these to pics to the Dr. What do you think? They may be a bit large but I think he will get the idea. But I am not quite sure because looking at the profile pics I think she may need it made this large.