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I know little about milling. The machine set up. Strategies , etc. Anyways , When sending to different milling centers I do see a difference in surface textures. Anywhere from light mill lines to a surface that is sorta orange peel. Is this the result of the machine , its tools, programming, etc ? Other things I'm not aware of ? Thanks..
 
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Milling centers are geared towards production, what you're getting is deemed good enough, cut in the shortest time possible...hence surface finish is not ideal. There's not much you could do other than using their settings.

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Milling centers are geared towards production, what you're getting is deemed good enough,

That begs the question: Which outsource center offers the best price/quality balance?

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I know little about milling. The machine set up. Strategies , etc. Anyways , When sending to different milling centers I do see a difference in surface textures. Anywhere from light mill lines to a surface that is sorta orange peel. Is this the result of the machine , its tools, programming, etc ? Other things I'm not aware of ? Thanks..
You don't realize what your missing. You not only could be experiencing better surface quality, you are also having to be content with their coloring processes. Un less you are getting in the ring to compete with low price, theres no way you can elevate quality unless you have control. When you get your own mill, your mind will quickly be stunned by what you've been missing. Choose your own materials. Color them your self. Its the only way.
 
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That begs the question: Which outsource center offers the best price/quality balance?

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That's a good question, I don't outsource...so I cannot comment. Might want to send the same file/Rx to various places then compare the results... When we purchased our first scanner, did try quite a few milling centers and I didn't liked any of them...that prompted us get out own mill soon after.
 
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That's a good question, I don't outsource...so I cannot comment. Might want to send the same file/Rx to various places then compare the results... When we purchased our first scanner, did try quite a few milling centers and I didn't liked any of them...that prompted us get out own mill soon after.

I agree, that is the right solution, eventually ...
 
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I agree, that is the right solution, eventually ...
If you just outsource 2 crowns a day and are paying 40 bucks each, that's about 1600 dollars a month. You could finance a mill and sinter oven for that easy. Then your quality goes up, word spreads and you get more work.

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Well, I do actually quite a bit more than that. And I have to agree with you, again. Quality wise that is the way to go! What I don't have is the manpower. Although, that is the next item on my 'to do' list.
 
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If you just outsource 2 crowns a day and are paying 40 bucks each, that's about 1600 dollars a month. You could finance a mill and sinter oven for that easy. Then your quality goes up, word spreads and you get more work.

Follow the yellow brick road.
Learning milling and coloring zirconia is great if you are not one man show like I am and producing around 95 PFM and about 15 Z crowns per month.
It is time consuming and is very expensive. I do not mill any more.
I use Argen digital. But if you have the time and $, than go for it.


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Learning milling and coloring zirconia is great if you are not one man show like I am and producing around 95 PFM and about 15 Z crowns per month.
It is time consuming and is very expensive. I do not mill any more.
I use Argen digital. But if you have the time and $, than go for it.


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Im a one man show too. Its time saving and very cost effective, as in profitable. When I quit using Argen and started doing my own, quality went up, costs went down, word spread and my income more than doubled.
 
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Was not my experience at all.
I am glad that you have done it successfully. It is great!!!

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I outsource all milling,printing,and abutments.
I just picked up 2 new clients this month .
They like my fcz crowns.
Thanks Argen!
 
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I would like to see what I'm missing in a crown milled , pre-stained and finished in a controlled environment rather than what I'm producing by just staining a crown milled from one of the popular milling centers. If anyone would be kind enough to send me a crown that perhaps did not fit or rejected for some reason I would be happy to buy a couple off someone just to compare.
 
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I would like to see what I'm missing in a crown milled , pre-stained and finished in a controlled environment rather than what I'm producing by just staining a crown milled from one of the popular milling centers. If anyone would be kind enough to send me a crown that perhaps did not fit or rejected for some reason I would be happy to buy a couple off someone just to compare.
you just want to see some fcz crowns? i have a handful kicking around.
mistakes, miscolors, etc.
 
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The surface finish quality as mentioned above is due to the spindle rpm and feed rate of the strategy used.

We strive to give clients the best surface finish possible. As fas as shades, we recommend using pre-shaded blocks, and adding incisor stain before sinter.
 
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