Does anodizing make a noticeable difference?

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No idea. It seems they are involved in all aspects of your abutment fabrication.
Also, I'm curious if the major implant companies have issues with this?
Would this void any warranties unless done by them?
 
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No idea. It seems they are involved in all aspects of your abutment fabrication.
Also, I'm curious if the major implant companies have issues with this?
Would this void any warranties unless done by them?
What warranties? Have you read any of those? LOL

They usually titanium nitrite coat which is different.
 
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Is the FDA aware of what you are doing here?

No idea. It seems they are involved in all aspects of your abutment fabrication.
Also, I'm curious if the major implant companies have issues with this?
Would this void any warranties unless done by them?

Excellent questions. It didn't even occur to me about the FDA angle concerning anodizing and altering a already approved by them, abutment.
 
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No idea. It seems they are involved in all aspects of your abutment fabrication.
Also, I'm curious if the major implant companies have issues with this?
Would this void any warranties unless done by them?

Excellent questions. It didn't even occur to me about the FDA angle concerning anodizing and altering a already approved by them, abutment.

EPA, FDA, DEA, FBI....are you guys trying to kill my order? If I go to jail, those agencies will have less revenues to fund them and I won't have to worry about funding my retirement. I'm moving forward with my order!
 
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Funny and Like :)
 
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I found etching made very little difference for gold color but is a must for pink. I have not spent enough time to get a good protocol to get a consistent pink color.


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Not many have, it frustrates me
 
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What warranties? Have you read any of those? LOL

They usually titanium nitrite coat which is different.

I was at a lecture on Friday where the surgeon had his concerns about this.
 
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I was at a lecture on Friday where the surgeon had his concerns about this.
What were his concerns? A lot of factory implant parts are anodized for color coding. It is basic physics, whether done by a huge corporation or a competent technician.
 
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Not anodizing , but nitrate coating such as biohorizons. He claims it is toxic but I was nodding off at that point.
 
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Not anodizing , but nitrate coating such as biohorizons. He claims it is toxic but I was nodding off at that point.

Hey, patients already have mercury, zirconia, and car bumpers in their mouths...what's a little nitrate coating going to hurt?
 
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One question, when or if you have ever received the Ti-nitrate coated abutment from atlantis is it on the interface? This is most definitely a dimensional difference than anodizing

As for dimensional difference from anodizing "perceived thoughts" are sometimes more dangerous than the facts. If your client is concerned than just wax out the interface just to shut them up.

The truth is there is no measurable difference that will effect ANYTHING. Its just one more thing some idiot has decided needs a study that will cost money and tell us something we already know.
 
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One question, when or if you have ever received the Ti-nitrate coated abutment from atlantis is it on the interface? This is most definitely a dimensional difference than anodizing

As for dimensional difference from anodizing "perceived thoughts" are sometimes more dangerous than the facts. If your client is concerned than just wax out the interface just to shut them up.

The truth is there is no measurable difference that will effect ANYTHING. Its just one more thing some idiot has decided needs a study that will cost money and tell us something we already know.

Amen! Anodizing will have no effect on any tissue besides colour...and the surgeon needs to get his head read...Nitride is a ceramic coating. it wont be the problems causing his implants to fail...keep looking.
 
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Not anodizing , but nitrate coating such as biohorizons. He claims it is toxic but I was nodding off at that point.
The process and chemicals are toxic, not sure if they are after the process is complete. 3i does this, maybe they have literature on their website?
 
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As for dimensional difference from anodizing "perceived thoughts" are sometimes more dangerous than the facts.
The amount of oxide layer on the surface is on an atomic scale, certainly immeasurable with in the tolerances of the machining process.
I block out the interfaces just to avoid answering this question another millions times.
 
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Indeed the pink is the hard one to obtain.
We have a complete process to have consistent result.

http://www.pantheradental.com/images/Realisations/full/527_bar_wrap-around_ionized.jpg

THere is also a process of cleaning to remove all possible residue of liquid used during the process.
It not complicated of doing it, neither it take time, but you must have proper equipment (meaning good power supply that is not affected by fluctuation in the electricity of your building and environment) and also a good recipe of product to use during the process to clean before, to use during and clean after.) Also the material make a difference, the titanium we use make a better result that the one we were using when I was Biocad/Nobel, color are nicer with the one we use.
 
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my concern would be the bond strength over an oxidation layer
 
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Oxidizing or tarnishing, or is that the same thing?
 
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Oxidizing or tarnishing, or is that the same thing?

Depends ,are you talking about abutments or reputations?

I usually will use an anodized abutment in the esthetic zone only. Not really a concern with bone level implants.
 

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