Best stain for emax

[NicelyMKV]

Concept Stains look good

They have a "moss" color that does great for the 010-040 bleach shades as well as other shades.

 

[Pam Gingerich]

We use GC Initial luster paste. But you need to do a 2 stage stain and glaze. First coat is stain and glaze liquid. Second coat is luster paste, but apply it a little heavy, the mix should not be to thick. They look really nice.

 

[RileyS]

Had to ask this question somewhere, here seems right. Anyone using insync stains and glaze on e.max as a internal stain before layering? Any issues with porcelain bonding to insync glazed crown?

 

[sidesh0wb0b]

Had to ask this question somewhere, here seems right. Anyone using insync stains and glaze on e.max as a internal stain before layering? Any issues with porcelain bonding to insync glazed crown?

ive asked if that was a good idea or not...but since ivoclar wont support jensens products, they say no.
and since jensen wont support ivoclar products, they say no.

ive been tempted to try it on a spare crown, but have yet to find the extra time. if you try it, please let us know!

 

[charles007]

Had to ask this question somewhere, here seems right. Anyone using insync stains and glaze on e.max as a internal stain before layering? Any issues with porcelain bonding to insync glazed crown?

Yes you can use InSyn stains for internal stain before layering dentin.
Two Must follow rules :
1. Fire stains at same temp as your bisbake of your dentin porcelain. (InSyn stains have a wide firing range.)
2. Don't use the Glaze on your internal layer, only colored stains.
3. Glaze paste is used for glazing in 1 or 2 firing technique....

Riley, Jensen has a new Imagine porcelain kit that's made for layering/ Micro layering. InSyn and Imagine are the same porcelains
but Imagine are the Enamels, tran/effect powders. In other words, Imagine kit doesn't include dentin powders. Both InSyn/Imagine works in
conjunction with InSyn stains just like you can do the same with GC porcelain and GC Lustre paste.....
InSyn/Imagine porcelain is a low firing porcelain system that works on both Emax and zirconia..

 

[rkm rdt]

No issues with GC lustre paste .

Why,because it's not a glaze.

 

[RileyS]

ive asked if that was a good idea or not...but since ivoclar wont support jensens products, they say no.
and since jensen wont support ivoclar products, they say no.

ive been tempted to try it on a spare crown, but have yet to find the extra time. if you try it, please let us know!

Yes you can use InSyn stains for internal stain before layering dentin.
Two Must follow rules :
1. Fire stains at same temp as your bisbake of your dentin porcelain. (InSyn stains have a wide firing range.)
2. Don't use the Glaze on your internal layer, only colored stains.
3. Glaze paste is used for glazing in 1 or 2 firing technique....

Riley, Jensen has a new Imagine porcelain kit that's made for layering/ Micro layering. InSyn and Imagine are the same porcelains
but Imagine are the Enamels, tran/effect powders. In other words, Imagine kit doesn't include dentin powders. Both InSyn/Imagine works in
conjunction with InSyn stains just like you can do the same with GC porcelain and GC Lustre paste.....
InSyn/Imagine porcelain is a low firing porcelain system that works on both Emax and zirconia..

Well, everything looked and "felt" the same. Fingers crossed. I'll do what you say Charles, just stain and no glaze then layer.

 

[charles007]

Riley, this info came straight from the horses mouth ... Terry McQ at last years InSyn hands-on class I attended....
That same question came up about using InSyn stains to set in colors during that same class by a loud mouth DLN member by the name of ? 007

 

[RubyMeiners]

I have to go with InSync. To me, it handles better than Lustre Pastes...

I just switched from e.max to InSync. I love the way InSync handles, but I'm having a real problem with the A shade...too high value.

 

[RDA]

I just switched from e.max to InSync. I love the way InSync handles, but I'm having a real problem with the A shade...too high value.

I agree, I use straight D shade "lightly", or a mixture of A and D shade paste to get the correct A shade on crowns.