tranz zirconia

[Ryan Gottlieb]

i know the staining isn't the best, but I'm just playing around.
This is a sample of Jensens new full contour zirconia.

 

[ts4341]

Are you using Lava Plus liquids to color?

 

[Ryan Gottlieb]

No, I used Zirkonzahn but over fired the hell out of it( I'm just playing with the material) and it washed all the color out. They were pretty white when they came out. I quickly fired some insync stain and glaze. I just was chomping at the bit to see the translucency. I'm pretty pleased and look forward

 

[ts4341]

CubeX2 with DD X2 liquid... Paint on SO incisal before dipping in dentin for 45 is the best i've found by trail.
Painting the dentin on takes alot more than 3 times. More like 5 or 6 in the cervical area, dentin 2/3s 3 0r 4, inc. still needs some dentin color like 1 or 2 light stokes then Inc. color.
Next, I might try Origins incisals on this material. Controlling the value in the incisal area is the challenge with this material.

 

[Ryan Gottlieb]

I'm looking forward to trying the cubex2 as well, just waiting for FDA or ISO. Cap has great stuff so I'm sure this will be no different.

 

[CreDes]

No, I used Zirkonzahn but over fired the hell out of it( I'm just playing with the material) and it washed all the color out. They were pretty white when they came out. I quickly fired some insync stain and glaze. I just was chomping at the bit to see the translucency. I'm pretty pleased and look forward

Let us know if you find a technique with the Zirkon Zahn liquids. I am going do testing tomorrow.

 

[ts4341]

If your using Aquarell liquids, be pared to 2 or 3 times what you would normally use.
When I used on normal Zr, Aquarell was always on the lightside and high value

 

[grantoz]

Don't over sinter the super trans it actually looks whiter I found this on 3 different brands zz anterior been one of them.fired at correct temp they look great.my clients are requesting it more and more.

 

[Kam Yu]

wow looks nice!

 

[RileyS]

Don't over sinter the super trans it actually looks whiter I found this on 3 different brands zz anterior been one of them.fired at correct temp they look great.my clients are requesting it more and more.

Nice info! Thanks for sharing

 

[ts4341]

CubeX2 is very translucent. Seriously looks like EMAX

 

[lcmlabforum]

ZZ says their stain is acid free. Other than the damage to the oven, how bad is the acid to the material/crown itself?
Still wondering how critical the acid is to actual ability to etch the milled product for the stain to bond to the microstructure . . .
LCM

 

[CoolHandLuke]

the acid stains only penetrate deeper and result in a more opaque product by many people's admission.

acid has virtually no effect on zirconia, as it is a type of glass and is inert. maybe these new zirconias contain some filler that goes transparent when it crystallizes.

 

[Smithwick0208]

Has anyone noticed how brittle the Cube is? I've been doing some tests and it seems to fracture easily.

 

[2thm8kr]

the acid stains only penetrate deeper and result in a more opaque product by many people's admission.

acid has virtually no effect on zirconia, as it is a type of glass and is inert. maybe these new zirconias contain some filler that goes transparent when it crystallizes.

Zirconia is a metal. The reason acid has virtually ne effect on it is because it is an element.

 

[CoolHandLuke]

anyway some acids have effect and some don't.

http://www.parrinst.com/wp-content/uploads/downloads/2011/07/Parr_Zirconium-Corrosion-Info.pdf

 

[DAL DT Technologies]

We use the DD liquid for our cubeX, dipping time only 15 seconds. After sintering we use the stains from DD too. Even shades in the C and D range turn out perfect. Make sure you don't take any shortcuts during sintering.

 

[JohnWilson]

WOW D shades come out perfect?

 

[ts4341]

CAP vs DAL....I like it!

CAP - 45 sec. Dip, 1500 temp
DAL - 15 sec. Dip, 1450 temp