A fight with a lab owner sending his work to china.

[TheLabGuy]

I want to share this with all of you because most of you actually give a damn about this lead stuff and what you actually make. This is a conversation that i copy/pasted from over at DentalTown. The quotes from TheLabGuy are from me, and the quotes from TexasTom is a guy who outsources all his work to china.


Quote: (texastom)
The fact that the public is being informed is a good thing and it will bring about change in how offshore vendors conduct themselves when they sell to the American public. I know our offshore labs are doing it right but we are being painted with the same brush but even that in the long run will be a good thing. The pressure of American public opinion and the pressure of the offshore manufactures that do it right will cause the change that will bring to the American consumer and those of the world products that are safe and at prices that will allow many more to participate in purchasing consumer goods and services.


Quote: (TheLabGuy)
Tom you're such a good business man...............to bad you find it self-righteous and patriotic to do work with communists. Makes one ponder why your not posting in the business section of the Message Boards instead of where "REAL" Dental Technicians hang out......i.e. the Laboratory Section.


Quote: (texastom)
I'm a service connected disabled vet and I plan on being part of destroying communism without using a generation of our young as cannon fodder like this county did to us. Plus we still let the sob's win. Our system of capitalism will dismantle communism despite your brand of BS slowing the process.


Quote: (TheLabGuy)
My brand of BS, you and your business dealings in China are why we are talking about lead in the first place..........oh your a disabled veteran, so am I, so who gives a flying fornification. Tom all you amount to is an UNPATRIOTIC PROFITABLE SLUT to the dental industry, and that's that. If you really had a pair that amounted to anything you would take your dental knowledge (or the lack of) and TEACH wonderful Americans your trade, and not sell out to the lowest bidder to do the work you can't do. One word comes to mind to the likes of yourself, despicable.

Quote: (texastom)
Name calling on the Internet takes real a warrior. I read your profile. Was it pure hell in the dental lab on board ship? The real warriors are always the quiet unassuming guys. It's the warrior want to bes like you that are always thumping their chest and trying to ride the coattails of the guys that really went in harms way for this county. There is just no need to call you what all that read your words recognize that you are. Oh by the way I give money and belong to the DAV and not some crackpot lab site.

Quote: (TheLabGuy)
Oh Tom, if you only knew..............I will confess I did spend some time on a ship, the USS KittyHawk, one hell of a group of dedicated patriotic "warriors".......I just wished I could of spent more than 4 hours with them. As for you however, I stand by my words to you and every Dentist out there that does the same. I'm still wondering though, why don't you take the time teach people the dental industry. NOT the china connection, I'm talking about sitting down and teaching someone how to do dental laboratory work. Is it that hard, too lazy, hate america that much, rather sit back and collect the cash, to busy playing delivery boy? That question goes out to all you labs who send to china to do your work, I'm curious? I do it everyday to Legal American's and can't think of anything better to pass on to someone.........you should give it some thought.



Okay, maybe calling him a Slut was a little mean, but he still refuses to answer my question about teaching......go figure. I wonder if Travis would be willing to post a link on the main forum page that calls out all these labs that we know for certain are sending to China..........it is for the patients? And hey, let me know what you think about what I posted. I got broad shoulders I can take it.

[labdude]

Take him by the nose and kick him in the ass all you want. He needs it, but, it won't do much good. Except maybe your leg and hand will get stronger.
I'm just burned out on this type of person. I have escaped from the city to the country and spend less time with those types.
I find it more satisfying to share what I can when I can. The stuff I share will make it easier for a small lab, and most likely piss off larger ones. At least in orthodontics.
Share your abilities and smarts with those who will use it, point out ones like this guy once in a while when they crop up. Sometimes like weeds. There are more who will read what you post than you know of. The guy will become known for what he is doing.
Have a beer, put your feet up. You exposed another twit.
Mike.

[Travis]

I thought about having known labs and even dentists that use China posted on the site somewhere, but who's to say if they really do or not. I don't want any legal battles or lawsuits because of a lie.

What am I allowed to say?

[sixonice]

I loved what you had to say. Your are 100% dead-on.....this guy is in it for the cash, plain and simple. He is a "delivery boy", a milkman just driving his route, delivering his communist goods and crossing his fingers everything will go OK for him. His clients are just as guilty. They all know this stuff comes from China, they are just padding their own wallets. I did enjoy the fact he didn't have a reply about teaching and spreading lab technology to Americans.

[TheLabGuy]

Originally Posted by Travis

I thought about having known labs and even dentists that use China posted on the site somewhere, but who's to say if they really do or not. I don't want any legal battles or lawsuits because of a lie.

What am I allowed to say?

The worse anyone can have done to you is have a cease/desist or injuction filed against you for that particular forum topic. And actually, they would file it against who owns your hosting/server, not particularly you. This is where things get fishy, as long as you're not the one saying the things, their is not much they can do but piss and moan about it. So as long as you personally don't post anything about anyone their isn't really a damn thing they can do about it......it's supposedly a free country. With that in mind, I would just make sure people are not bad mouthing each other and make sure they are sending to china to keep your credibility. Other than that, have at it, we got your back...............I think it's a wonderful idea and I'll even start it today.........NADL PRESIDENT (JOE GERACE) who owns/runs DSG (Dental Services Group) also, the largest privately owned dental laboratory corporation in the United States sends to China..............so far as I know, he does notify the Doctors that he is doing this........not that it makes it any better. Kind of hypocritical for NADL to be saying one thing when their current President is doing another....isn't it? Their Travis, that'll get you some attention, delete the whole post if you feel uncomfortable about it, you won't hurt my feelings.

[Travis]

texastom is a big name on that site. He didn't do very well in his argument.

You are very concise in your posts. Good job!

[TheLabGuy]

Originally Posted by Travis

texastom is a big name on that site. He didn't do very well in his argument.

You are very concise in your posts. Good job!

Not hard to argue when you're in the right brother.......

You're right, he's a big name over there, but for some reason has yet to make a post since then.........go figure

[Travis]

Originally Posted by TheLabGuy

NADL PRESIDENT (JOE GERACE) who owns/runs DSG (Dental Services Group) also, the largest privately owned dental laboratory corporation in the United States sends to China..............so far as I know, he does notify the Doctors that he is doing this........not that it makes it any better. Kind of hypocritical for NADL to be saying one thing when their current President is doing another....isn't it?

The NADL president Joe Gerace, does he run Dental Service Group? I read from the DSG website that Bob Ditta was the president.

[TheLabGuy]

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