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Dental-CAD Discuss, Scanning Metal hinge articulator with 3shape at Lab talk, the good, the bad, and the ugly forum; We have been scanning for a while now and constantly run into this same issue. For most cases we mount ...
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    We have been scanning for a while now and constantly run into this same issue. For most cases we mount on a plastic vertex articulator, which works fine for scanning. Some cases need to be mounted on a metal hinge type articulator which seems to be too big to fit in our scanner. Currently our solution is to gently knock the case off, after making a silicone matrix to hold the case in the proper bite relationship during scanning. After scanning we glue the case back on the articulator using our matrix and the bite as reference.

    We use a 3shape D800 and D700.

    Does anyone have a better solution or suggestion for scanning cases mounted on a metal articulator?

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    Drew what I do is I have the model dept mount the case with magnets underneath the base, and when the bite scan part comes. I hot glue the bite in place while still mounted with the metal articulator in. to dry and harden the glue use some freeze spray once it drys in matter of seconds you can pull the prep and opposing off easy. This helps for stratos mounted cases too. hope this helps

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    Remove the scanner door. Place something in the switch so the scanner thinks its closed. Cover the scanner with a box and or black sheet.
    Or continue to break and reglue....]

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    We just use the exaflex putty to make a bite index and scan the bite index, problem solved!
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    For our brass articulators cases like that we take the bite while its still mounted. Then for the model scan I just use a solid model for it and then use the seperate dies for the prep scan.
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    I have the solution.
    I change your scaner for my D250.

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    Why not do your scanning before you have the case mounted? just a thought. That's what I've been doing
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    Cut a few key way notches in the bottom of the stone model. Easy to line back up to the plaster.

    I do the case on a monotrac base and then mount to a brass or hanau articulator using the removable magnet base. Monotrac sticks to the putty mounts in scanners great as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WDL-Cali-Cad-Man View Post
    Drew what I do is I have the model dept mount the case with magnets underneath the base, and when the bite scan part comes. I hot glue the bite in place while still mounted with the metal articulator in. to dry and harden the glue use some freeze spray once it drys in matter of seconds you can pull the prep and opposing off easy. This helps for stratos mounted cases too. hope this helps
    I like the idea of magnets. What kind of magnets? Do you know of a certain product?

    We use the magnetic mounts with our stratos too. Sometimes with the model will be too tall to scan with the magnetic plate and plaster on it. Do you ever have that problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NicelyMKV View Post
    Cut a few key way notches in the bottom of the stone model. Easy to line back up to the plaster.

    I do the case on a monotrac base and then mount to a brass or hanau articulator using the removable magnet base. Monotrac sticks to the putty mounts in scanners great as well.
    Good idea. I like the monotrac base. I will look into that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doug View Post
    Why not do your scanning before you have the case mounted? just a thought. That's what I've been doing
    We have been mounting with a vertex for scanning then transfer to hard articulator after.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adigitalsmile View Post
    For our brass articulators cases like that we take the bite while its still mounted. Then for the model scan I just use a solid model for it and then use the seperate dies for the prep scan.
    That's a good idea to use the solid model. For the bite, do you select antagonist bite instead of scanning the opposing model?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcusthegladiator View Post
    Remove the scanner door. Place something in the switch so the scanner thinks its closed. Cover the scanner with a box and or black sheet.
    Or continue to break and reglue....]
    NICE. I like this! Does this really work?

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    Newer is not always better in all aspects i guess...

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    Lego blocks.

    Cheaper than magnets, and don't spin or slide.

    4x4 blocks embedded into model base.

    Have a nice weekend! See y'all soon.




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    Quote Originally Posted by DMC View Post
    Lego blocks.

    Cheaper than magnets, and don't spin or slide.

    4x4 blocks embedded into model base.





    Now that is thinking outside the box! Great idea, I love it!

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